From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PIsj1-0003U9-HQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:51:47 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DABFEE076F; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97372E076F for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyb6 with SMTP id 6so1897826eyb.40 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:51:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=+sPDaMhSDW52hqtU49QC68EBMF0BgaO1erapYwYRTt4=; b=SRWfPtNJIyMVGXR7fmWXf5T78OQyUsn5dU1H8YU08zf4krJMfugZ9DUfZUQ7Vvovpx o5F5FjLzwBhnIRlfe/ejw8lZvU+8AKhkM/8ItMcQ1OYxD/tjqJuaqBtyDDqjJn1o8LiI wZxIz4CWBElXiWRLORPq/S4LmfZtc/2gsMfJs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=kRIKSuY1Pw8Ucwi7K2ZsB0cuHKmDn7uHUwETcZmVnWtqnG/jQFdF0Q0yettgiliu/w aaT/MCgt05NVX1naLK0PmoGsPP0BPZtBiefnO40RadlCq4g/Qwbznl2iz2fgHQkilWOJ ouKG+/UEQczbFhyy/I3L+IJYi0mdcp6PXyRZI= Received: by 10.213.33.84 with SMTP id g20mr3137874ebd.4.1290041472007; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-238-14.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.238.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q58sm2837854eeh.15.2010.11.17.16.51.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:51:11 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends "emerge" text output to stderr, not stdout Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 02:51:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.36-ck; KDE/4.5.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <20101117002517.GA18328@waltdnes.org> <20101118002025.GA23732@waltdnes.org> In-Reply-To: <20101118002025.GA23732@waltdnes.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201011180251.39371.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: b58cbb24-bc98-4863-bc09-b0910d94d51b X-Archives-Hash: 0780f73ba38253c82810788ac7de2674 Apparently, though unproven, at 02:20 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Walter Dnes did opine thusly: > Because I don't want a repeat of the ipv6 fiasco where I had an almost > non-functional browser, mediaplayer (for internet files), etc, etc. And > I also had to run "emerge --newuse --update world" and inspect the > output from "emerge -pv --depclean" and remove additional stuff, and > then revdep-rebuild to clean up the resulting extra "goodies". If I > don't use "-*" what's the next flag that the devs will add? And how many > of my current packages will link against it? emerge -avuND world will show you, in colour, USE flags that have changed. You can then decide what to do about them. Your way, you have to explicitly add back in all the flags you want. You will not receive the benefit of seeing changed defaults (and there might be a good reason for the change, but now you will miss them). You also just trashed most of the usefulness of profiles and have to manually tracked all default USE changes yourself. The usual way (not to do what you do) still lets you control as much as you want but with the minimum effort as opposed to the maximum effort. You will only need to make a decision when a decision needs to be made. Why are you making more work for yourself? Portage is software, let it do what software is good at - removing drudge work from your life so you can get on with the important things, stuff that needs thought -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com