From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PIIPM-0004GP-Cm for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:05:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DC84E0720; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.166]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2518E0720 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.133] (helo=smtp2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIIOt-0006me-Hi for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:04:31 +0100 Received: from 5ed3454e.cm-7-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([94.211.69.78] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIIOq-0003aD-8b for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:04:28 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83D22093 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:04:26 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from data.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (data.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KR7l46L31QM8 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:04:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from eve.localnet (eve.lan.antarean.org [10.20.13.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88F031EB6 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:04:26 +0100 (CET) From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:04:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.30-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <4CE0AF60.3020505@gmail.com> <201011160916.18091.joost@antarean.org> <201011161053.28550.wonko@wonkology.org> In-Reply-To: <201011161053.28550.wonko@wonkology.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201011161104.26949.joost@antarean.org> X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1PIIOq-0003aD-8b X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.599, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: joost@antarean.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Archives-Salt: 6c403b69-f48a-4c94-950c-531cc016b518 X-Archives-Hash: 48d74033f5acdedfeec0b5dd4634cb03 On Tuesday 16 November 2010 10:53:28 Alex Schuster wrote: > J. Roeleveld writes: > > On Tuesday 16 November 2010 03:33:19 Dale wrote: > > > That's not doable here tho. This is a Linux only house. My nieces > > > puter is the only puter in the house with windoze on it and it is > > > just visiting. It does have NTFS so I am sort of chicken to hook it > > > up to my Linux box. It would be just my luck that it screwed up > > > something. I would mount it read only to save data but scared to do > > > any writing to it. > > > > emerge sys-fs/ntfs3g > > > > I use it to read and write from/to NTFS drives without problems. The > > in-kernel one appears to be ok as well. > > Doesn't the in-kernel one have only very basic write support? Like, > modifying files only if the size stays the same? Not sure, I'm running current kernels (2.6.30+) and have on occasion accidentally used the ink-kernel one and then copied file around. I didn't loose any data with that. but I agree, ntfs-3g seems to be the more reliable one for this. > > > I did reboot that thing. It does boot and it boots a lot faster now. > > > It appears it was fragmented pretty badly. The error messages about > > > software that used to pop up don't pop up when it boots now either. > > > Maybe AVG did clean out some stuff. I'm not holding my breath but > > > maybe it will last the kids a little while at least. > > > > It should, but just in case, take a backup of the whole drive (dd > > if=/dev/kidsdrive of=/backupofkidsdrive) > > > > That way you can always restore it quickly for them ;) > > There is also the ntfsclone command in sys-fs/ntfsprogs. True, except that I was thinking of backup up the whole drive, including the boot-sector. It's a bigger backup, but I have never had a stable system after just restoring the filesystem for a MS Windows system. Not sure if this has improved with current systems, but last time I tried it, it didn't work. -- Joost