From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PHveh-0005AB-1r for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:47:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DF7BE07EB; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9746E07EB for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.146] (helo=smtp15.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PHveD-00027G-DP for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:46:49 +0100 Received: from 5ed3454e.cm-7-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([94.211.69.78] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp15.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PHve5-00043z-Ji for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:46:41 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00F62069 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:46:39 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from data.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (data.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bMXUVCTvvipG for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:46:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from eve.localnet (eve.lan.antarean.org [10.20.13.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E80821EB6 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:46:38 +0100 (CET) From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:46:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.30-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <4CE0AF60.3020505@gmail.com> <398100A0-A7B8-4EFE-946A-FD60499A4670@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <4CE0FE0F.1080005@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4CE0FE0F.1080005@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201011151046.39345.joost@antarean.org> X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1PHve5-00043z-Ji X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.599, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: joost@antarean.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Archives-Salt: 2d0eddb2-006c-425e-adee-b3ce31ae3045 X-Archives-Hash: 33a8f6c2faf947c7138e6417974e48ef On Monday 15 November 2010 10:32:00 Dale wrote: > Stroller wrote: > > On 15/11/2010, at 3:56am, Dale wrote: > >> ... =20 > I am thinking like you on the reason it is not working. It was brought > to me because it was not running as fast as it used to. First thing I > noticed was that AVG hasn't been updated in about 2 YEARS. I installed > the newest AVG and it found hundreds of infections and said it fixed > them. I never was a big believer in "fixing" a infection. Anyway, I > got that updated and got it to scan until nothing was found. Great, a MS Windows PC that hasn't been maintained in 2+ years... If there are hundreds of infections, I'd scrap the install, but then you do= =20 need the install-media for the OS and software they use. Some of them might simply be cookies, btw. I've seen virus scanners delete = all=20 the cookies just because they "might" be wrong. > While doing that, I noticed the drive was really doing some serious > searching while booting and such. It is also pretty slow to boot. The > poor drive light stays on about all the time and you can hear the heads > going back and forth. I wanted to run defrag just to see if it would > help. I figure if AVG hasn't been updated in that long, I doubt they > ran defrag either, not to mention it doesn't work. Sounds like a good guess, however, I told my parents how to do basic=20 maintenance on their computer (including defrag), but it will still slow do= wn=20 over time. No idea why, but I'd check the installed programs list and uninstall anythi= ng=20 they do NOT use. > I couldn't get Defraggler to work either. Different error and I even > tried a older version that wasn't beta with the same results. I then > found mydefrag and gave it a try. So far, it is working on it and it > seems to be doing something at least. The window makes it look like it > was fragmented really bad. It looks like something that would come out > of a blender after hitting frapp=E9. My guess for the error: "There is insufficient diskspace to defragment this= =20 drive" Solution: Copy documents over onto an external drive Then delete the copied documents from the harddrive and then run defrag. Do NOT use "move" with MS Windows, I've had it fail and then had to manuall= y=20 figure out what was and wasn't moved yet. > If this completes, I'm going to let them try it to see if it is any > better. If it is still not to their liking, they will just have to get > a windoze CD and I'll reinstall from scratch. That should help. To be honest, I doubt it'll be much better. In the "old" days, Symantec had= a=20 utility that could also optimize the registry. That generally did work, but= =20 the last time I used that was with MS Windows 98. Never did see a copy for later versions. (Ok, I admit, I didn't bother to l= ook=20 for it) > In case you can't tell, I don't claim to know a lot about windoze. > People in my family just like me to work on their puters. I worked on > puters until windoze 3.1 came out. I changed careers. I got tired of > that pretty quick. I just thought DOS was bad. lol I swtiched completely over to Linux in 1998 for personal use. Only use MS=20 Windows when I have no choice (eg. using MS Windows only software/applicati= ons=20 for work). I did the switch after MS Windows crashed and stole my email and documents = one=20 time too many. =2D- Joost