[gentoo-user] Command-line wicd?

[gentoo-user] Command-line wicd?

[Peter Humphrey]

Hello list,

I'm installing Gentoo on a Thinkpad laptop and I want to install wicd in 
place of the manually configured network, rather than installing the 
standard network setup and then ripping it out again to put wicd in its 
place.

The problem is that wicd insists* on a gtk interface, which would force 
me to install X etc. before the first boot, so that wicd could enable me 
to fetch all the sources.

Is there any way to get a CLI version of wicd installed?

* It really insists: even USE=-gtk emerge -pv wicd still throws the same 
error about missing config parameters in some X package.


-- 
Rgds
Peter.          Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.

Re: [gentoo-user] Command-line wicd?

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 18:55 on Thursday 04 November 2010, Peter 
Humphrey did opine thusly:

> Hello list,
> 
> I'm installing Gentoo on a Thinkpad laptop and I want to install wicd in
> place of the manually configured network, rather than installing the
> standard network setup and then ripping it out again to put wicd in its
> place.
> 
> The problem is that wicd insists* on a gtk interface, which would force
> me to install X etc. before the first boot, so that wicd could enable me
> to fetch all the sources.
> 
> Is there any way to get a CLI version of wicd installed?
> 
> * It really insists: even USE=-gtk emerge -pv wicd still throws the same
> error about missing config parameters in some X package.

wicd is designed for laptops and mobile computers. 

Once you see that it's features are quite overkill for desktops (and complete 
overkill for servers), then this is apparent.

Instead, why don't you just let baselayout get on with adding the 20 extra 
characters that go into /etc/conf.d/net to get you a working interface, build 
stuff, then add wicd later? wicd is not in any sane @system or default @world, 
it's simply a very useful tool for laptops. But by no means required and 
easily left till last.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Command-line wicd?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 16:55:25 +0000, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> The problem is that wicd insists* on a gtk interface, which would force 
> me to install X etc. before the first boot, so that wicd could enable
> me to fetch all the sources.
> 
> Is there any way to get a CLI version of wicd installed?
> 
> * It really insists: even USE=-gtk emerge -pv wicd still throws the
> same error about missing config parameters in some X package.

Wicd also has an X use flag. I've just tried emerge -p wicd on a headless
(and Xless) box and it didn't try to pull in any X related packages.
You'll have to try

USE="-X -gtk -qt4" emerge -pvt wicd

see what is pulling in X, add USE flags to the command, rinse and repeat.

That it can be done is not in doubt, whether it is worth the effort is.

Personally, I USE="eth0" when installing Gentoo on a laptop.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Command-line wicd?

[Willie Wong]

On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 07:06:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 18:55 on Thursday 04 November 2010, Peter 
> Humphrey did opine thusly:
> 
> > I'm installing Gentoo on a Thinkpad laptop 

> wicd is designed for laptops and mobile computers. 

Alan: time for new reading glasses?

Peter: I am pretty sure on my laptop I disabled the wicd gtk/X
interface (and only use the curses interface). Check the list of USE
for wicd again? Maybe you need to also issue -X? 

Best, 

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong                                     wwong@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
         et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton

Re: [gentoo-user] Command-line wicd?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday 04 November 2010 17:22:28 Neil Bothwick wrote:

> Wicd also has an X use flag. I've just tried emerge -p wicd on a
> headless (and Xless) box and it didn't try to pull in any X related
> packages. You'll have to try
> 
> USE="-X -gtk -qt4" emerge -pvt wicd
> 
> see what is pulling in X, add USE flags to the command, rinse and
> repeat.
> 
> That it can be done is not in doubt, whether it is worth the effort
> is.
> 
> Personally, I USE="eth0" when installing Gentoo on a laptop.

I see what you mean. I'll do that. Thanks all.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.          Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.

Re: [gentoo-user] Command-line wicd?

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 19:40 on Thursday 04 November 2010, Willie 
Wong did opine thusly:

> On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 07:06:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Apparently, though unproven, at 18:55 on Thursday 04 November 2010, Peter
> > 
> > Humphrey did opine thusly:
> > > I'm installing Gentoo on a Thinkpad laptop
> > 
> > wicd is designed for laptops and mobile computers.
> 
> Alan: time for new reading glasses?

Funny you say that. I just "fixed" mine after the dog chewed them and then I 
stood on them. "fixed" because they're not right and still wonky.

Damn, now I feel like a chop.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Command-line wicd?

[Jake Moe]

On 05/11/10 04:44, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Thursday 04 November 2010 17:22:28 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
>> Wicd also has an X use flag. I've just tried emerge -p wicd on a
>> headless (and Xless) box and it didn't try to pull in any X related
>> packages. You'll have to try
>>
>> USE="-X -gtk -qt4" emerge -pvt wicd
>>
>> see what is pulling in X, add USE flags to the command, rinse and
>> repeat.
>>
>> That it can be done is not in doubt, whether it is worth the effort
>> is.
>>
>> Personally, I USE="eth0" when installing Gentoo on a laptop.
> I see what you mean. I'll do that. Thanks all.
jmoe@aus10224 ~ $ equery hasuse eth0
 * Searching for USE flag eth0 ...
jmoe@aus10224 ~ $

Am I missing something here?  I never heard of that use flag before.

Jake Moe

Re: [gentoo-user] Command-line wicd?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday 11 November 2010 02:35:21 Jake Moe wrote:
> On 05/11/10 04:44, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 November 2010 17:22:28 Neil Bothwick wrote:
[...]
> >> Personally, I USE="eth0" when installing Gentoo on a laptop.
> > 
> > I see what you mean. I'll do that. Thanks all.
> 
> jmoe@aus10224 ~ $ equery hasuse eth0
>  * Searching for USE flag eth0 ...
> jmoe@aus10224 ~ $
> 
> Am I missing something here?  I never heard of that use flag before.

It isn't a USE flag; it's a way of connecting to the network. You know: 
set the Ethernet connection up in /etc/conf.d/net as described in the 
installation handbook. (I think Neil's caps-lock key stayed on a bit too 
long.)

-- 
Rgds
Peter.          Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.