From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PAwc1-0000eS-G1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 03:23:41 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15883E068C; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 03:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF29E068C for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 03:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk5 with SMTP id 5so129301gxk.40 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.177.7 with SMTP id z7mr4383902ybe.433.1288149780469; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (129-97-251-181.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.251.181]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r6sm4522258yba.23.2010.10.26.20.22.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 23:21:23 -0400 From: Vincent Launchbury To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox and using kdm Message-ID: <20101027032123.GA7415@root_A20> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <4CC76457.7040804@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CC76457.7040804@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 184b7aa0-81f6-49f6-bd73-36a7b432c099 X-Archives-Hash: 6332b05a417dc08d2546ce8d0b32d252 On 2010/10/26 07:29PM, Dale wrote: > Is starting fluxbox without kdm as easy as typing "startfluxbox" in a > console as a user? Surely it can't be that easy. No, since X has to be started first. X creates windows, but just puts them all on top of each other, with no way to move them, and no way to switch between them except by clicking. Fluxbox just runs ontop of X, and manages it's windows, adding decorations and a sane way to control them. For example, try doing: xinit "xterm -e /bin/bash" -- /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp and run fluxbox from the xterm. It's just a layer ontop of an already running X. You should be able to start fluxbox from a console with just: startx /usr/bin/startfluxbox which overrides the default /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc script. That should basically create an xauthority file and run xinit, which in turn starts X, then fluxbox, and waits for fluxbox to exit so it can shutdown X nicely. Regards, Vincent. > Thanks. > > Dale > > :-) :-)