From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1P62oz-00027E-Qq for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:00:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B48D1E05E8; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f53.google.com (mail-ew0-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D645E05E8 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy8 with SMTP id 8so829815ewy.40 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:59:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=CVFFgfj5zOFFKAvWYJ+A583zldGz5K2HQWHRXEIYEQo=; b=GUzd7AVeQups6nQeGziKJ7hffkZZTI8V5VpO1fswkM2lSu2HfW+NJiR/KpZNexq49e 6d7BqkNQqrFPXUb791llSKzqAiQCnDn56SgN0lZ8Of1B0AJjxiP+eCE/4IdYfT3lKx+b PdHx8X6b6ismCCDzK9X30LMTTUt1PamMz34g0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=rCIHbv/uZtKlHXWZTULDVVnn//lGivXWbb96L8z5YpVLhc8MnHtYengQGzjXgUDTcZ 0YcpbTk0bG/4fS8zhs7jAt397maf07CpLeGlVcX0f3GqfuETX1a1xuBm2DrkKB2YOIwV tjYyggQ3byAWCuXdKmd9ZERVsAyrYYtQbs1W4= Received: by 10.213.7.18 with SMTP id b18mr3883944ebb.63.1286981950442; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-215-2-42.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.215.2.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v8sm15092558eeh.14.2010.10.13.07.58.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:58:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: DNS Issues [Was: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow Login, Sudo, etc.] Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:59:25 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.35-ck-r4; KDE/4.5.2; x86_64; ; ) Cc: daid kahl References: In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201010131659.25607.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 9d26d2c2-ba1d-41d0-bba7-cc9db1f44dd7 X-Archives-Hash: b6083dc7d7cf5870ca0aa9bae55c4f87 Apparently, though unproven, at 15:50 on Wednesday 13 October 2010, daid kahl did opine thusly: > I guess what might be helpful right now is how to purge my networking > stuff and just start it all from scratch. There is so much garbage > installed right now so I can hack it together that it's just a mess > (this happened because I can get it to function eventually, yuck). Some tips that will get you sorted about 19 times out of 20: Yes, purge all the /etc/init/net. stuff. I've yet to get that method to work on notebooks, which can be anywhere anyplace when started up. That system is great for servers and desktops that don't move around, lousy for notebooks. Dump NetworkManager. This too I never got to work reliably, if at all. It seems to want to hook into the distro default stuff, meaning /etc/init.d/net.* and has the same issues. Use wicd. Really, use wicd. All your problems will just magically go away. It is designed to do what notebooks need done - dynamically connect to the best network connection at any given time. It's highly scriptable too. The number of people here over the years complaining about nm is obscene. The number of people here over the years complaining about wicd is close to 0. Seriously, just use wicd, dump the rest. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com