From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OvFMe-0005vK-Lf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:10:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE414E0C24; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81539E0C24 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so3203132eyf.40 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:10:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=R2WYuwRALDDo2u5vfeTs7aB8RDo8PQYOMurWVFSzqrc=; b=eoJce+R9gj5ezhHsFv/is0L80FVjq7zz0ZqUU0V70gHXmceN+iRK86eckCf0i2sOBY HoEBZZ7M43fwVjAujsN5DYmkioKHER6PIYy7OKfKgbAtrP4+LkYBXBU77kFJabSr90HY jpjVj/YW7qxG/hArlXMBMhdOyPl4GP2qwmveY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=jNBoIkRbXhKzBEUYpLp94BhNWg6zqnxOWAgv0uaMBz++/BzoRc+a2z4HGFI9APxsXx JE8g1QphytvAfuSlCopj2bT6fiyx2PxreWyHK6sM5cfH2ebZa+w0tIlZ6ZsGW+K6Aw/z J4W45hcEXXotICSdGI07rc1EuVWcZGOKFsmXc= Received: by 10.213.19.78 with SMTP id z14mr2136270eba.66.1284408608946; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-155.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z55sm9795384eeh.15.2010.09.13.13.10.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:10:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:09:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.35-ck-r2; KDE/4.5.1; x86_64; ; ) Cc: "J. Roeleveld" References: <20100913183723.57A77E0746@pigeon.gentoo.org> <201009132113.48484.joost@antarean.org> In-Reply-To: <201009132113.48484.joost@antarean.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009132209.59519.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 0d5cd9c9-6c97-47a9-b6ee-29b8c5ab5cd5 X-Archives-Hash: 77010e4dfecff475978da34a17d7f265 Apparently, though unproven, at 21:13 on Monday 13 September 2010, J. Roeleveld did opine thusly: > On Monday 13 September 2010 21:00:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 09/13/2010 09:45 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > >> [...] > > > > > > I wouldn't expect people to run a Gentoo system with all packages on > > > unstable. I tend to only select specific packages as unstable when I > > > really need that version. > > > > Usually the best "stability" is reached by running either full stable or > > full testing (aka "unstable"). Mixing usually makes things worse. I > > used to run a mixed system, but at some point it was clear to me that > > this fscks things up quite often due to package versions whether ~arch > > packages breaking with arch ones. > > This is true, but not all packages I want are in stable, this forces me to > unmask these. > I also don't always want to wait for packages to become stable. > > What I currently have in "/etc/portage/package.keywords is: > =games-strategy/x2-1.4.05 ~amd64 > =games-strategy/x3-2.5.01 ~amd64 > =app-emulation/virtualbox-bin-3.2.8 ~amd64 > =app-emulation/virtualbox-modules-3.2.8 ~amd64 > > These don't have a large set of additional requirements. If they did, I > wouldn't have upgraded to these. I also had "qt-creator" in there, but that > one has become stable since. > > I'm still not clear how versions can be made to be marked "stable". File a stabilization request at bugs.gentoo.org If it's sufficiently tested, and there are no outstanding big bugs on the package, and if the arch maintainers agree, the devs will move the package to stable. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com