From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OvETs-0006FO-0u for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:14:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E0D7E0C00; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.166]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E572E0C00 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.143] (helo=smtp12.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvETU-0006q9-Hk for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:13:56 +0200 Received: from 53532a97.cable.casema.nl ([83.83.42.151] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp12.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OvETR-00006R-IJ for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:13:53 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0953E for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:14:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from data.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (data.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gGZndLWNHjEi for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:14:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eve.localnet (eve.lan.antarean.org [10.20.13.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D72399BF for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:14:51 +0200 (CEST) From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: what's going on with updates ? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:13:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.30-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <20100913183723.57A77E0746@pigeon.gentoo.org> <201009132045.16523.joost@antarean.org> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009132113.48484.joost@antarean.org> X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1OvETR-00006R-IJ X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.001, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_50 0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: joost@antarean.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Archives-Salt: 1692510e-c61e-4e5f-91dd-f6883f098722 X-Archives-Hash: d05295647da319ce755c1c3630130fce On Monday 13 September 2010 21:00:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 09/13/2010 09:45 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> [...] > > > > I wouldn't expect people to run a Gentoo system with all packages on > > unstable. I tend to only select specific packages as unstable when I > > really need that version. > > Usually the best "stability" is reached by running either full stable or > full testing (aka "unstable"). Mixing usually makes things worse. I > used to run a mixed system, but at some point it was clear to me that > this fscks things up quite often due to package versions whether ~arch > packages breaking with arch ones. This is true, but not all packages I want are in stable, this forces me to unmask these. I also don't always want to wait for packages to become stable. What I currently have in "/etc/portage/package.keywords is: =games-strategy/x2-1.4.05 ~amd64 =games-strategy/x3-2.5.01 ~amd64 =app-emulation/virtualbox-bin-3.2.8 ~amd64 =app-emulation/virtualbox-modules-3.2.8 ~amd64 These don't have a large set of additional requirements. If they did, I wouldn't have upgraded to these. I also had "qt-creator" in there, but that one has become stable since. I'm still not clear how versions can be made to be marked "stable". -- Joost