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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo in kernel config ?
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 01:17:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201009120117.22392.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C8BF8DB.7030502@gmail.com>

Apparently, though unproven, at 23:47 on Saturday 11 September 2010, Dale did 
opine thusly:


> >> My point was, if the sources are say in the user group, then any user
> >> can edit them? Right now, they are in the root group and owned my root
> >> which for security reasons is a good idea. That way a regular user can't
> >> edit or modify the kernel sources.
> > 
> > The group can only write if the files have the group write permission
> > set.  Still in Unix 101 domain, hehe :)
> 
> I know that.  Why would a person want anyone BUT root to be able to
> access and change the kernel sources?  Lets see if asking it this way
> makes more sense.  lol


Gentoo does things different. If you read Documentation/* in the kernel 
sources, you will not find there what Gentoo has.

/usr/src/linux was intended by the kernel devs[1] to be where the system 
headers are stored - what glibc uses to build. Like everything else in /usr/ 
this is obviously writeable for root only (usually).

The intent is that you download kernel sources to ~, build there and sudo make 
install.

Gentoo needs a kernel tree (not just headers) for all manner of stuff to build 
against. These days many distros also do it this way to accommodate the needs 
of getting nvidia-drivers and vm products to build their drivers etc. This 
must obviously also be writeable only for root.

So, the ancient "advice" about not building as root is bullshit. It might have 
been good advice once but like all advice it's time is past.

To answer your question:

"You wouldn't. Anything else is just daft."


[1] this itself might be ancient cruft and hopelessly out of date

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-11 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-11  8:24 [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ? Stéphane Guedon
2010-09-11  9:46 ` Albert Hopkins
2010-09-11 10:41   ` Stéphane Guedon
2010-09-11 13:43     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-09-11 15:53   ` Albert Hopkins
2010-09-11 20:18   ` Alan McKinnon
2010-09-11 20:34     ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2010-09-11 20:51       ` Alan McKinnon
2010-09-11 21:05         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-09-12  8:14         ` Stéphane Guedon
2010-09-11 20:35     ` [gentoo-user] " Dale
2010-09-11 20:28       ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2010-09-11 20:49         ` Alan McKinnon
2010-09-11 22:05         ` Peter Humphrey
2010-09-11 22:03           ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2010-09-11 23:06             ` Peter Humphrey
2010-09-11 23:15               ` [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] " Etaoin Shrdlu
2010-09-12  9:16                 ` Peter Humphrey
2010-09-12 10:24                   ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2010-09-12 16:45           ` [gentoo-user] " Al
2010-09-11 20:42       ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2010-09-11 20:49         ` Dale
2010-09-11 21:01           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-09-11 21:30             ` Alan McKinnon
2010-09-11 21:47             ` Dale
2010-09-11 23:17               ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2010-09-12 16:59     ` walt
2010-09-11 17:59 ` Nikos Chantziaras

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