On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:25:07 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > gentoo is run emerge, study output, understand all of it, consider what > flameeyes has to say about it, wonder if some screw ball fucked up > glibc yet again, discuss in upgrade meetings, then proceed with lots of > other crap ad nauseam. Part of the problem is that there is no such thing as a stable Gentoo installation. the portage tree is changing all the time and emerge -u world wants to continually install new stuff when the old stuff works fine. It would need some sort of snapshot system where you can pin to a particular point in the portage tree's history and only bug/security updates would be applied. > It's 130 different configs on 150 machines serving 30 different > systems, many of them legacy systems. Management once asked what it > will take to unlegacy all of that. They didn't like my answer: > > Triple the salary budget > Two years. If you really wanted it, you could quote lower and then slightly revise upwards in light of "unforseen circumstances"... rinse and repeat. -- Neil Bothwick A man needs a mistress - just to break the monogamy