From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ot1UD-0003UZ-Id for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:57:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07E90E0BF3; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f53.google.com (mail-ew0-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B977DE0BF3 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so2726751ewy.40 for ; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:57:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=IekGJ08/YJpA/vC1RW9J8wa8UJejX/fynAKsAsGTRHo=; b=r5bXf+DcQ8iULmY8fB9W4hZTWzK9g3dpc96oM1qr32swGGQxe6PzmwAKtWrRb1NeBH qYZ4V6IINu+SIVyLq69PAnxZMfvzYF4atlywDVDBN551mdCjSraGt7oDVWNm9XvjxYDP B0ojhCzM4WXL8zLsLe28YRsoGSjQQbuu6SFnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=cb0bxYgd3kgV34RWsSe/r7Y7voHjQ8SrPEOfA8yP2qUUbv7O2ZiUM6IgrVbF62i18H qNZrYbuVW8uOi1v8r/LVWvICSXdeGbbEW4lpJTHatI932YDngfF0VzHNuLj13xN5Vx2b k4/Xra9xHUNh99KPcamr08o1hpW2GSKOZOjtg= Received: by 10.213.114.5 with SMTP id c5mr19932ebq.91.1283878636732; Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-183-214.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.183.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z55sm10204620eeh.21.2010.09.07.09.57.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:57:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:54:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.35-ck-r2; KDE/4.5.1; x86_64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201009071854.15874.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 6c942104-9b26-462e-8627-43ee952c6b04 X-Archives-Hash: 31b277f7d85f4af65949ca7a847e657c Apparently, though unproven, at 18:48 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al did= =20 opine thusly: > > I'm afraid you lost me there. Why does it matter where the archive is? >=20 > Sure, it is most important to have an archive at all. When using a > newsreader the minimun I do is to scan the headers of the past, to > avoid the discussion of a solved question. That is faster then > openenig a webbrowser to search an archive. When subscribing to a > mailinglist, I don't even know the topics of yesterday. >=20 > Al Dude,=20 Do you comprehend the simplicity of what folk here are telling you? We do not have a news service because we[1] do not feel we need one and do = not=20 desire one. Therefore it is *highly* unlikely there will be one. You can us= e=20 gmane. 'kthanxforplayingbye Hardly anyone here is listening to you or taking you seriously, and here's= =20 why: You are self-confessed new to Linux and Volker already spotted by are likel= y=20 new to Linux as well. You are not (yet) part of this community for real, an= d=20 you have no street cred in this meritocracy. What you need to do now is =2D build up a posting history =2D to do that you need experience =2D to do that you need to ask and listen =2D then help others in turn I've been here for 4 years. I'm one of the conceited loud-mouths and I stil= l=20 get myself regularly bitch-slapped by people who are just as good as I am.= =20 =46rom that position, I actually feel quite personally offended by your=20 attitude. I've earned some of my attitude stripes. You have yet to begin. [1] In this context, "we" shall be understood to mean "the majority, by com= mon=20 consensus" =2D-=20 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com