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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [WAY OT] Parenthese, was Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:00:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201008202100.16552.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C6EB66A.80100@kutulu.org>

Apparently, though unproven, at 19:07 on Friday 20 August 2010, Mike Edenfield 
did opine thusly:

> On 8/20/2010 11:40 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> > As to the thingies, I enjoyed discovering that to many people a
> > parenthesis is not a glyph or punctuation mark, but instead the contents
> > of the language set aside in one way or another.  I had always regarded
> > parentheses as the round glyphs (), but this turns out to be normative
> > primarily in mathematics, computer programming languages and similar
> > fields.  But I find several competing meanings and sources using
> > http://dictionary.reference.com/cite.html?qh=parenthesis&ia=luna
> > <http://dictionary.reference.com/cite.html?qh=parenthesis&ia=luna>
> 
> In American English usage, the three forms of puncutation mark have
> distinct names.  Contrary to previous assertions, these names are not
> informal; authoritative American English dictionaries like M-W define
> "bracket", "brace", and "parenthesis" separately as punctuation marks.
> 
> In British English they're all called "brackets", e.g. square, curly, or
> round.

Yuck. Too many times I've had someone dictate text and this happens:

Them: <blah> <blah> open bracket <blah> <blah> ....
Me:   Which bracket?
Them: huh?
Me:   You said open bracket. What kind of bracket?
Them: Curly?
Me:   You mean brace.
Them: Yes, that's the one! Is that what it's called then?

Way too many words. Just give the bloody thing a name.

Like Eskimo's with 20+ words for different kinds of snow.
Say "snow" to any Eskimo, see what happens :-)




> 
> The Romance languages are somewhat varied, but they mostly use the Greek
> word parenthesis to derive their term for () marks; in some cases, that
> word is use for *all* brackets; in other cases [] and {} have separate
> terms:
> 
> () = parenthèses (Fr.), paréntesis (Sp.), parentesi tonde (It.)
> [] = crochets (Fr.), corchetes (Sp.), parentesi quadre (It.)
> {} = accolades (Fr.), corchetes (Sp.), parentesi graffe (It.)
> 
> For what it's worth, Unicode defines U+0028 AND U+0029 as "LEFT
> PARENTHESIS" and "RIGHT PARENTHESIS" (also "OPENING PARENTHESIS" and
> "CLOSING PARENTHESIS").
> 
> --Mike

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-20 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-19 20:21 [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages Kevin O'Gorman
2010-08-19 22:01 ` Neil Bothwick
2010-08-19 23:38 ` Peter Humphrey
2010-08-20  7:20   ` Dale
2010-08-20  8:01     ` Neil Bothwick
2010-08-20  8:39       ` Dale
2010-08-20  8:03   ` Neil Bothwick
2010-08-20  9:01     ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-20  9:23       ` Neil Bothwick
2010-08-20 14:53     ` Peter Humphrey
2010-09-02 16:15       ` Neil Bothwick
2010-08-20  9:06   ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-20 13:20   ` Bill Longman
2010-08-20 14:58     ` Peter Humphrey
2010-08-20 15:12       ` Bill Longman
2010-08-20 15:40       ` Kevin O'Gorman
2010-08-20 17:07         ` [WAY OT] Parenthese, was " Mike Edenfield
2010-08-20 19:00           ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2010-08-20 19:32             ` [gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] Parenthese Alex Schuster
2010-08-20 20:14               ` Alan McKinnon
2010-08-21  9:53                 ` Peter Humphrey

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