From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Om7Vg-0003ZW-OK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:58:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69399E069C; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f53.google.com (mail-ew0-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D301E069C for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1571757ewy.40 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:58:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=y0/dh7QnOBXblbg3gUdgO024eeIvTQeoDUOJtP28Zj4=; b=pIV8WVIZ7cXhS0cIr/CEybV1Hv2E3dSSUMax8APQPiIBecIJyK7dUq7h0b6FZrVk5v kO3HaMGtygNkyTlw+NDfO3D6cgT/YIiFvAaVUWiUkGg8BCGgeDCU/Q6z7Q6v5HEN4z9W MZSKCkga/mXEFNLNqD2lxTRbr7Zam2g/mkAVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=LrgQ9Iy+EdpXrFkdIGeqJY6caeQ47vVVn+eefsNsssXZLqJFm6FR2enlh4mdCjFunX MJ8zRlVuy1oZFtSOCg/hRjznqwOYSV3D3bMhReW9ljCT1WM0XayyrxYimlJ/KmU3w3F3 /BO8rCyuXygYeRlcZfI0XqunNccEjPIwBrrpw= Received: by 10.213.22.200 with SMTP id o8mr905234ebb.65.1282233481260; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (dustpuppy.is.co.za [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a48sm2857324eei.19.2010.08.19.08.57.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:57:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:55:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.34-ck-r1; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <201008171033.09425.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <201008181605.06097.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <20100819134941.078aa0b1@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100819134941.078aa0b1@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201008191755.02426.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 3e52138f-3c1a-4255-b648-fcb703505f72 X-Archives-Hash: 3ed5933d6086e5748af38f2e04ab244d Apparently, though unproven, at 14:49 on Thursday 19 August 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: > On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:05:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > But for critical production machines? Not a flying chance in hell :-) > > Too many times I've had to sort out the carnage from idiotic juniors > > who blindly run "emerge -uND world" and walk away thinking Unix always > > works like RedHat. > > Why do you give these idiotic juniors the root password/sudo emerge rights? Because I have better things to do than log into 137 machines and do what it takes to update world on each one? Remember this ain't a cluster - only about 20 of them share any kind of common usage. Besides, if I don't give them some form of responsibility they will never become responsible. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com