From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OlM7O-0001LX-P0 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:22:20 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2EF52E0826; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.14]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E214FE0826 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:21:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Trace: 240712480/mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-customers/81.86.110.137/None/peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 81.86.110.137 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com X-SMTP-AUTH: aoyu93@dsl.pipex.com X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: KMail/1.9.10 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhsFACQpakxRVm6J/2dsb2JhbACDFZASjRVyrH2SNoEigyJzBJBj X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,381,1278284400"; d="scan'208";a="240712480" X-IP-Direction: OUT Received: from 81-86-110-137.dsl.pipex.com (HELO nero.ruskin) ([81.86.110.137]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 17 Aug 2010 14:21:35 +0100 From: Peter Ruskin Organization: Retired To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:21:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <201008171033.09425.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201008171033.09425.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-No-Archive: yes Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201008171421.35070.peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com> X-Archives-Salt: 857414ad-abc0-4b82-a6b0-2066dd33d02d X-Archives-Hash: c79e5385faeeffeb4ed542566845c678 On Tuesday 17 August 2010 09:33:09 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone successfully built and using glibc-2.12.1 yet? > > I see the tree just pushed an update down from 2.11.2 to 2.12.1, > and downgrading that package is decidedly non-trivial. Only > comment I can find at this early stage is flameeye's blog, and > this makes me quadruple nervous: > > > > > And if you say that =E2=80=9Cthe new GLIBC works for me=E2=80=9D, are you= saying > that the package itself builds or if it=E2=80=99s actually integrated > correctly? Because, you know, I used to rebuild the whole system > whenever I made a change to basic system packages when I > maintained Gentoo/FreeBSD, and saying that it=E2=80=99s ready for ~arch > when you haven=E2=80=99t even rebuilt the system (and you haven=E2=80=99t= , or you > would have noticed that m4 was broken) is definitely something > I=E2=80=99d define as reckless and I=E2=80=99d venture to say you=E2=80= =99re not good > material to work on the quality assurance status. > > =E2=80=9Ccorrectness=E2=80=9D in the case of the system C library would b= e =E2=80=9Cit a > t least leaves the system set building and running=E2=80=9D; glibc 2.12 > does not work this way. OK here on ~amd64, but you got me worried so I emerged m4 to check=20 and that went OK too. =2D-=20 Peter =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Gentoo Linux: Portage 2.2_rc67 kernel-2.6.35-gentoo-r1 AMD Phenom(tm) 9950 Quad-Core Processor gcc(Gentoo: 4.4.4-r1) KDE: 3.5.10 Qt: 3.3.8b =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D