From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ObiUz-0006PQ-8Z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:14:49 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 730EEE0CA1 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f53.google.com (mail-ew0-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA32E0B99 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so3279647ewy.40 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=klPJ0zWIpvuSRcD51cXEHo0cSl8MDyPijuai7yy5xw4=; b=g1MKzMgV0rYC5eplCWtRbSSxpAZqBhN3jY5PGXjd1IZuh2hyZ23tUmzc5Oldlwrv/G uG/6nEvtoWYKPAam957QtUeCXY/v154rmG6f8xQABh7a1GHVH0lLQoH5ztMY2ToIxsY8 1Alflelvf4Dw3mWhaEf9mFaOsQAbVRKMZsOv8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=BEEtLBgdceI2+0mUPIvr7KTNUz4v0G9Y+xHCCkQ8uuBt3en+DvS7+4A4wMcdC3kEXB BBuasOoZB9OoPBNJ2whjR9Qn1FRjIZdmRdtaT9UoV12rmKg29wkgk4tLrwH9jJCVCe53 jvqMxiSycERATr2hl1VM+3hTFJ8UHiSFavlNk= Received: by 10.213.33.73 with SMTP id g9mr1028153ebd.46.1279753914548; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-215-57-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.215.57.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a48sm54169316eei.18.2010.07.21.16.11.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] lazy gcc switching Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:08:41 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.34-ck-r1; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <4c46b57fc965d2.14838702@wp.pl> <201007212139.30701.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4C47721D.1040808@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C47721D.1040808@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201007220108.41971.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: b76f958f-dcad-47fd-b0e9-685e0238dd87 X-Archives-Hash: 405584e212f46a178f17a64892c53280 On Thursday 22 July 2010 00:18:05 Bill Longman wrote: > On 07/21/2010 12:39 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 July 2010 17:49:46 Bill Longman wrote: > >> And to play devil's advocate, I'll chime in with my experience. The 4.4 > >> GCC, at least on AMD CPUs, creates noticeably faster code. I recompiled > >> all my packages after I upgraded to 4.4 and it was a noticeable > >> difference. > >> > >> But, to make perfectly clear what Alan and Dale have stated previously, > >> it is not a requirement to recompile anything. The binaries that are > >> created still call the same system calls as they did before. The kernel > >> still publishes them in the same locations. And to prove to yourself > >> this is true, grab a statically linked binary, compiled for a stock > >> standard i686, and run it on your machine. > > > > I'd love to be able to experience the speedups of gcc-4.4 and by rights I > > should be able to - my last "rip gentoo apart and put it back together > > again" stunt needed an emerge -e world to fix it all. > > > > But, and this is the bit that makes me cry, the slowdown from KDE-4.4.5 > > has obliterated all that advantage several times over..... > > > > raster *really* needs to hurrry up now and release e17 > > Might I suggest a small hardware upgrade: > > http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron6100/SR56x0/H8QGi-F.cfm Might I submit that that will be a tad difficult to squeez into this: # dmidecode | grep -B3 "Product Name" Handle 0x0100, DMI type 1, 27 bytes System Information Manufacturer: Dell Inc. Product Name: XPS M1530 :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com