[gentoo-user] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[gentoo-user] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Enrico Weigelt]

Hi folks,


does he speak for all of you ?


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------- Comment #4 from vapier@gentoo.org  2010-07-05 19:39 0000 -------
lemme clarify further: dont bother submitting ebuilds for any package in
OSS-QM.  we arent interested.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Albert Hopkins]

On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 01:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> 
> does he speak for all of you ?
> 

huh?

Re: [gentoo-user] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Dale]

Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 01:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>    
>> Hi folks,
>>
>>
>> does he speak for all of you ?
>>
>>      
> huh?
>
>    

This was sent to -dev too.  It referenced this bug on that list.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326991

Still not sure what is going on with this yet.  It's a head scratcher.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 06 July 2010 01:48:43 Dale wrote:
> Albert Hopkins wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 01:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> >> Hi folks,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> does he speak for all of you ?
> > 
> > huh?
> 
> This was sent to -dev too.  It referenced this bug on that list.
> 
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326991
> 
> Still not sure what is going on with this yet.  It's a head scratcher.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)

Gentoo uses upstream master sources and cherry picked patches. Not quite as 
rigid on upstream-only as say Slackware, but close.

Ubuntu chucks all manner of wild fancy-free patches into their distro with 
nary a care in the world for the results - they are an experimental distro.

Red Hat and SLES deviate so far from upstream it just isn't funny anymore. 
Their customer's need very different things to desktop users and gentoo 
sysadmins.

Where's the common ground to combine all of that into one repository? The idea 
is a pipe dream.

The correct place for stuff like that is in an overlay where it can be tested 
then pushed upstream if found workable. From there it makes it's way down to 
the users.

The OP is essentially asking to switch steps 2 and 3. flameeyes and spanky are 
telling him not to pollute the tree in such a ways.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Willie Wong]

On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 01:29:04AM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> 
> does he speak for all of you ?
> 
> ------- Comment #4 from vapier@gentoo.org  2010-07-05 19:39 0000 -------
> lemme clarify further: dont bother submitting ebuilds for any package in
> OSS-QM.  we arent interested.
> 

What the heck is the OSS-QM?

No, the link in your sig didn't work, it returned a 404. 

In any case, if the gentoo maintainers don't want to deal with it, and
if you really need it, and if you can't convince them to switch, then
maybe it is time to try a new distro? 

Also, just because it is not *sanctioned* by the maintainers doesn't
mean it cannot go in an overlay somewhere. 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> Where's the common ground to combine all of that into one repository? The idea 
> is a pipe dream.

Fairly simple: use different branches. Hopefully, several distros
would aggree on a common base, but thats not mandatory.
The main point is, that everything's done within the source, and
the sources live in a common vcs infrastructure.


cu
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Re: [gentoo-user] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Willie Wong <wwong@Math.Princeton.EDU> wrote:

> What the heck is the OSS-QM?

Already posted it to the list several weeks ago:

http://www.metux.de/download/oss-qm-project-2010050101.pdf


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Re: [gentoo-user] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:30:55 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

> > What the heck is the OSS-QM?  
> 
> Already posted it to the list several weeks ago:
> 
> http://www.metux.de/download/oss-qm-project-2010050101.pdf

Which list? You've been cross-posting to multiple lists, was that
announcement cross-posted to the same lists?

Yet another reason why cross-posting to mailing lists is bad.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:30:55 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
>
>    
>>> What the heck is the OSS-QM?
>>>        
>> Already posted it to the list several weeks ago:
>>
>> http://www.metux.de/download/oss-qm-project-2010050101.pdf
>>      
> Which list? You've been cross-posting to multiple lists, was that
> announcement cross-posted to the same lists?
>
> Yet another reason why cross-posting to mailing lists is bad.
>
>    

I agree.  Enrico, since you are working with ebuilds and trying to add 
to the tree, you need to post on -dev.  This list is for users trying to 
get help with getting packages to install, work and how to work with the 
programs they install.  This list does other things to but that is the 
basics of it.  Since you are developing packages, or trying to, you need 
to be on -dev.

You might want to find a well respected developer and discuss the way 
Gentoo does things off of any list.  You are only going to make things 
worse for yourself.  At some point, you are going to be ignored by 
default.  Sort of hard to prove yourself when no one is listening.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] [bugzilla-daemon@gentoo.org: [Bug 326991] Testing release of sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.3 from unofficial sources (???)]

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree.  Enrico, since you are working with ebuilds and trying to add 
> to the tree, you need to post on -dev.  This list is for users trying to 
> get help with getting packages to install, work and how to work with the 
> programs they install.  This list does other things to but that is the 
> basics of it.  Since you are developing packages, or trying to, you need 
> to be on -dev.

My idea is that some folks here (which are not @ -dev) might be 
interested, too. 

> You might want to find a well respected developer and discuss the way 
> Gentoo does things off of any list.

If you're talking about things like continuing with epatches instead
of git repos ... well, there's not much to say here. I'll continue 
doing it my way and offer my ebuilds to the world - everbody's free
to try it or simply ignore it.


cu
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