[gentoo-user] Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[gentoo-user] Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Grant Edwards]

Firefox got upgraded from 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 yesterday, and now the flash
plugin won't work.  I tried both "x86" and "~x86" versions, and both
crash 100% of the time.

Never had a problem with Flash before this.

Is there a version of flash player that works with FF 3.6.4?

-- 
Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Grant Edwards]

On 2010-06-30, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
> Firefox got upgraded from 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 yesterday, and now the flash
> plugin won't work.  I tried both "x86" and "~x86" versions, and both
> crash 100% of the time.

The problem was caused by an old 9.x copy of the plugin that was left
in ~/.mozialla/plugins.  After deleting the flashplayer plugin from
that directory, FF then found the "officially" installed 10.x version
and is now happy.

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                                  at               ... Now I have to go
                              gmail.com            administer FIRST-AID to my
                                                   pet LEISURE SUIT!!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Grant]

>> Firefox got upgraded from 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 yesterday, and now the flash
>> plugin won't work.  I tried both "x86" and "~x86" versions, and both
>> crash 100% of the time.
>
> The problem was caused by an old 9.x copy of the plugin that was left
> in ~/.mozialla/plugins.  After deleting the flashplayer plugin from
> that directory, FF then found the "officially" installed 10.x version
> and is now happy.

I'm having the exact same problem, except I don't have a
~/.mozilla/plugins directory at all.  Any ideas?

- Grant (a different Grant)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[netfab]

Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:06:04 -0700,
Grant a écrit :

> >> Firefox got upgraded from 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 yesterday, and now the
> >> flash plugin won't work.  I tried both "x86" and "~x86" versions,
> >> and both crash 100% of the time.
> >
> > The problem was caused by an old 9.x copy of the plugin that was
> > left in ~/.mozialla/plugins.  After deleting the flashplayer plugin
> > from that directory, FF then found the "officially" installed 10.x
> > version and is now happy.
> 
> I'm having the exact same problem, except I don't have a
> ~/.mozilla/plugins directory at all.  Any ideas?
> 

Close firefox and go to your profile directory.
  (~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxxx.something)
In this directory, you should find a file : pluginreg.dat
You can try to remove it.

A few days ago I realized that I had two different versions of the flash
plugin registered in this file.

[gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Grant Edwards]

On 2010-07-01, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Firefox got upgraded from 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 yesterday, and now the flash
>>> plugin won't work. ?I tried both "x86" and "~x86" versions, and both
>>> crash 100% of the time.
>>
>> The problem was caused by an old 9.x copy of the plugin that was left
>> in ~/.mozialla/plugins. ?After deleting the flashplayer plugin from
>> that directory, FF then found the "officially" installed 10.x version
>> and is now happy.
>
> I'm having the exact same problem, except I don't have a
> ~/.mozilla/plugins directory at all.  Any ideas?

Search for libflashplayer.so files.

Another of my machines had an old one in /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins.
That should have been a symlink to /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
which is where the ebuild puts the file.

While the old files in ~/.mozilla/plugins were udoubtedly due to a
stupid human trick on my part, I don't know how I ended up with an old
file instead of a symlink in /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins.

I think all of my machines now have a working flashplayer plugin...

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! I wonder if I should
                                  at               put myself in ESCROW!!
                              gmail.com            

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Grant]

>>>> Firefox got upgraded from 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 yesterday, and now the flash
>>>> plugin won't work. ?I tried both "x86" and "~x86" versions, and both
>>>> crash 100% of the time.
>>>
>>> The problem was caused by an old 9.x copy of the plugin that was left
>>> in ~/.mozialla/plugins. ?After deleting the flashplayer plugin from
>>> that directory, FF then found the "officially" installed 10.x version
>>> and is now happy.
>>
>> I'm having the exact same problem, except I don't have a
>> ~/.mozilla/plugins directory at all.  Any ideas?
>
> Search for libflashplayer.so files.
>
> Another of my machines had an old one in /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins.
> That should have been a symlink to /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
> which is where the ebuild puts the file.

I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox, but
flash still isn't working.  It works in opera.  Any ideas?

- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[netfab]

Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
Grant a écrit :
> 
> I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
> pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox, but
> flash still isn't working.  It works in opera.  Any ideas?
> 

Try with another new profile :

	$ firefox -ProfileManager

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Mick]

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On Friday 02 July 2010 08:51:21 netfab wrote:
> Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
> 
> Grant a écrit :
> > I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
> > pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox, but
> > flash still isn't working.  It works in opera.  Any ideas?
> 
> Try with another new profile :
> 
> 	$ firefox -ProfileManager

Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but still works 
in FF-3.6.4.  o_O

I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Alan McKinnon]

On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:30:46 Mick wrote:
> On Friday 02 July 2010 08:51:21 netfab wrote:
> > Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
> > 
> > Grant a écrit :
> > > I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
> > > pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox, but
> > > flash still isn't working.  It works in opera.  Any ideas?
> > 
> > Try with another new profile :
> > 	$ firefox -ProfileManager
> 
> Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but still
> works in FF-3.6.4.  o_O
> 
> I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...

Latest flash does not have a 64 bit version. On amd64 you MUST use 
nspluginwrapper.

Safest is to just remerge the thing and let it convert all your plugins - the 
command to do that is somewhat arcane and tedious but the ebuild does it all 
automatically.



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Grant]

>> > > I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
>> > > pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox, but
>> > > flash still isn't working.  It works in opera.  Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Try with another new profile :
>> >     $ firefox -ProfileManager
>>
>> Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but still
>> works in FF-3.6.4.  o_O
>>
>> I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...
>
> Latest flash does not have a 64 bit version. On amd64 you MUST use
> nspluginwrapper.
>
> Safest is to just remerge the thing and let it convert all your plugins - the
> command to do that is somewhat arcane and tedious but the ebuild does it all
> automatically.

Fixed by emerging nspluginwrapper.  Thanks everyone!

- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Mick]

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On Saturday 03 July 2010 20:31:35 you wrote:
> On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:55:50 Mick wrote:
> > On Saturday 03 July 2010 12:37:53 you wrote:
> > > On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:30:46 Mick wrote:
> > > > On Friday 02 July 2010 08:51:21 netfab wrote:
> > > > > Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Grant a écrit :
> > > > > > I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
> > > > > > pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox,
> > > > > > but flash still isn't working.  It works in opera.  Any ideas?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Try with another new profile :
> > > > > 	$ firefox -ProfileManager
> > > > 
> > > > Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but
> > > > still works in FF-3.6.4.  o_O
> > > > 
> > > > I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...
> > > 
> > > Latest flash does not have a 64 bit version. On amd64 you MUST use
> > > nspluginwrapper.
> > > 
> > > Safest is to just remerge the thing and let it convert all your plugins
> > > - the command to do that is somewhat arcane and tedious but the ebuild
> > > does it all automatically.
> > 
> > Right, I've done all that and also went into the browser control panel to
> > ask it to scan new plugins (after I checked that the paths were correct)
> > and Opera still does not play flash.  Going to youtube just shows the
> > circular video loading graphic and nothing much happens - despite the
> > fact that the network gkrellm shows the download is taking place ...
> 
> I get the same. Looks like a bug to me. I found this, but nothing mentioned
> in it helped me:
> 
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321465

This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a response 
(as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash area first and 
then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it full screen, etc.)  The 
fix they suggest does not work with the problem I am trying to solve with 
Opera-10.60 though.

I'm not Steve Jobs friend as such, but can't wait another minute for html 5 to 
do away with the stupid adobe flash creation.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Grant Edwards]

On 2010-07-03, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a
> response (as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash
> area first and then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it
> full screen, etc.) The fix they suggest does not work with the
> problem I am trying to solve with Opera-10.60 though.
>
> I'm not Steve Jobs friend as such, but can't wait another minute for
> html 5 to do away with the stupid adobe flash creation.

While Flash has it technical faults, the main problem with flash is
it's user-base.  It seems to be used primarily in two situations:

  1) When you're trying to hide the fact that the site content
     completely sucks.

  2) When you're too incompetent to do a good interface design.

Perhaps if Flash weren't around, it's user-base would find some other
equivalent way to blight their audince, but Flash is just so _good_ at
it.
  
-- 
Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Mick]

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On Sunday 04 July 2010 04:19:54 Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2010-07-03, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a
> > response (as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash
> > area first and then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it
> > full screen, etc.) The fix they suggest does not work with the
> > problem I am trying to solve with Opera-10.60 though.
> > 
> > I'm not Steve Jobs friend as such, but can't wait another minute for
> > html 5 to do away with the stupid adobe flash creation.
> 
> While Flash has it technical faults, the main problem with flash is
> it's user-base.  It seems to be used primarily in two situations:
> 
>   1) When you're trying to hide the fact that the site content
>      completely sucks.
> 
>   2) When you're too incompetent to do a good interface design.
> 
> Perhaps if Flash weren't around, it's user-base would find some other
> equivalent way to blight their audince, but Flash is just so _good_ at
> it.

Did I say, my favourite addon for FF is flashblock? :-))
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Mick]

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On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:54:56 Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 03 July 2010 20:31:35 you wrote:
> > On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:55:50 Mick wrote:
> > > On Saturday 03 July 2010 12:37:53 you wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:30:46 Mick wrote:
> > > > > On Friday 02 July 2010 08:51:21 netfab wrote:
> > > > > > Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Grant a écrit :
> > > > > > > I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
> > > > > > > pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted
> > > > > > > firefox, but flash still isn't working.  It works in opera. 
> > > > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Try with another new profile :
> > > > > > 	$ firefox -ProfileManager
> > > > > 
> > > > > Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but
> > > > > still works in FF-3.6.4.  o_O
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...
> > > > 
> > > > Latest flash does not have a 64 bit version. On amd64 you MUST use
> > > > nspluginwrapper.
> > > > 
> > > > Safest is to just remerge the thing and let it convert all your
> > > > plugins - the command to do that is somewhat arcane and tedious but
> > > > the ebuild does it all automatically.
> > > 
> > > Right, I've done all that and also went into the browser control panel
> > > to ask it to scan new plugins (after I checked that the paths were
> > > correct) and Opera still does not play flash.  Going to youtube just
> > > shows the circular video loading graphic and nothing much happens -
> > > despite the fact that the network gkrellm shows the download is taking
> > > place ...
> > 
> > I get the same. Looks like a bug to me. I found this, but nothing
> > mentioned in it helped me:
> > 
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321465
> 
> This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a
> response (as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash area
> first and then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it full
> screen, etc.)  The fix they suggest does not work with the problem I am
> trying to solve with Opera-10.60 though.

I filed this bug: 326841

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3->3.6.4 update.

[Mick]

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On Sunday 04 July 2010 10:35:06 Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:54:56 Mick wrote:
> > On Saturday 03 July 2010 20:31:35 you wrote:
> > > On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:55:50 Mick wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 03 July 2010 12:37:53 you wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:30:46 Mick wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday 02 July 2010 08:51:21 netfab wrote:
> > > > > > > Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Grant a écrit :
> > > > > > > > I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I
> > > > > > > > deleted pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I
> > > > > > > > restarted firefox, but flash still isn't working.  It works
> > > > > > > > in opera. Any ideas?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Try with another new profile :
> > > > > > > 	$ firefox -ProfileManager
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but
> > > > > > still works in FF-3.6.4.  o_O
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Latest flash does not have a 64 bit version. On amd64 you MUST use
> > > > > nspluginwrapper.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Safest is to just remerge the thing and let it convert all your
> > > > > plugins - the command to do that is somewhat arcane and tedious but
> > > > > the ebuild does it all automatically.
> > > > 
> > > > Right, I've done all that and also went into the browser control
> > > > panel to ask it to scan new plugins (after I checked that the paths
> > > > were correct) and Opera still does not play flash.  Going to youtube
> > > > just shows the circular video loading graphic and nothing much
> > > > happens - despite the fact that the network gkrellm shows the
> > > > download is taking place ...
> > > 
> > > I get the same. Looks like a bug to me. I found this, but nothing
> > > mentioned in it helped me:
> > > 
> > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321465
> > 
> > This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a
> > response (as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash
> > area first and then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it
> > full screen, etc.)  The fix they suggest does not work with the problem
> > I am trying to solve with Opera-10.60 though.
> 
> I filed this bug: 326841

The problem seems to be that the new Opera will not follow symlinks to the 
plugin, in particular it will not follow:

/usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so -> 
/opt/netscape/plugins32/libflashplayer.so

although it reports it as the plugin path in about:plugins.

So, removing the symlink and cp /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so 
to /opt/netscape/plugins32/libflashplayer.so fixes the problem.  Of course, 
the real fix should be with opera which suddenly stopped following the 
symlink.  Hopefully the bug report will be followed upstream.  Until then the 
copied file works for me.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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