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On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 02:38:22PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> mailinglists00@gmail.com wrote:
> > hi all!
> >
> > My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized
> > web browser with a page with pictures and text.
> > If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and
> > the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it
> > takes a moment.
> > I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much
> > faster, I didn't recognize any problem.
> > dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so
> > I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's
> > some kind of kernel or USE flag problem.
> > Any of you experienced similap problem?
> >
> > Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or
> > pastebin?
> >
> > I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
> > and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.
> >
> > Thanks for reading...
> > bendeguz
> >    
> 
> You can paste emerge --info here.  You can snip parts that are not 
> relevant if needed.  I usually remove mirrors and such.  Also post the 
> version of drivers and such as well.  Using emerge -pv <package names> 
> is the best way.  Then just give everybody time to give it a look and 
> see if they see anything wrong or something you can try.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 

Thank you, so here it goes... 

@Alex: yes, 3D performance is okay.
I know glxgears is not a benchmark, but it
shows the same result on ubuntu livecd as on gentoo.
I think there is a newer card with similar name, radeon
7500, but this is the old one, ~7 years old, so I
can only use the open source "radeon" driver.

@Dale and everybody:

 eix xf86-video-ati
[U] x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati
     Available versions:  6.12.1-r1{tbz2} 6.12.5{tbz2} 6.12.6 (~)6.12.7 (~)6.13.0{tbz2} {debug}
     Installed versions:  6.12.1-r1{tbz2}(07:33:06 PM 06/19/2010)(-debug)

[D] x11-base/xorg-server
     Available versions:  [m]1.6.5-r1{tbz2} [m]1.7.6{tbz2} [m](~)1.7.7 [m](~)1.8.0 
[m](~)1.8.1.901{tbz2} [m](~)1.8.1.902 {debug dmx doc hal ipv6 kdrive minimal nptl sdl 
static-libs tslib +udev xorg}
     Installed versions:  1.6.5-r1{tbz2}(05:10:15 PM 06/26/2010)(hal nptl xorg -debug -dmx -ipv6 
-kdrive -minimal -sdl -tslib)

X server 1.7.x and 1.8.x are much worse than this one, so I don't want to upgrade it.

[U] media-libs/mesa
     Available versions:  7.5.2{tbz2} 7.7.1 (~)7.8.2 {debug +gallium kernel_FreeBSD motif 
(+)nptl pic selinux video_cards_intel video_cards_mach64 video_cards_mga video_cards_none 
video_cards_nouveau video_cards_r128 video_cards_radeon video_cards_radeonhd video_cards_s3virge 
video_cards_savage video_cards_sis video_cards_sunffb video_cards_svga video_cards_tdfx 
video_cards_trident video_cards_via (+)xcb}
     Installed versions:  7.5.2{tbz2}(04:58:17 PM 06/26/2010)(nptl pic video_cards_radeon xcb 
-debug -kernel_FreeBSD -motif -video_cards_intel -video_cards_mach64 -video_cards_mga 
-video_cards_none -video_cards_r128 -video_cards_radeonhd -video_cards_s3virge 
-video_cards_savage -video_cards_sis -video_cards_sunffb -video_cards_tdfx -video_cards_trident 
-video_cards_via)

[I] x11-wm/fluxbox
     Available versions:  1.0.0 1.0.0-r2 (~)1.1.0.1 1.1.1-r1{tbz2} (~)1.1.1-r2{tbz2} **9999 
{disableslit disabletoolbar gnome (+)imlib kde -newmousefocus nls +slit +toolbar (+)truetype 
vim-syntax xinerama}
     Installed versions:  1.1.1-r2{tbz2}(04:35:58 PM 06/26/2010)(imlib nls slit toolbar truetype 
-gnome -newmousefocus -vim-syntax -xinerama)


I don't know if it is relewant, but maybe it is:

[I] x11-libs/cairo
     Available versions:  1.8.8!t (~)1.8.8-r1!t{tbz2} (~)1.8.10!t{tbz2} {X aqua cleartype debug 
directfb doc glitz lcdfilter opengl +svg xcb}
     Installed versions:  1.8.10!t{tbz2}(06:07:36 PM 06/19/2010)(X opengl svg xcb -aqua 
-cleartype -debug -directfb -doc -glitz -lcdfilter)

[I] x11-libs/pango
     Available versions:  1.24.5-r1 1.26.2{tbz2} (~)1.28.1{tbz2} {X debug doc +introspection 
test}
     Installed versions:  1.28.1{tbz2}(11:44:14 AM 06/17/2010)(X -debug -doc -test)

[I] x11-libs/gtk+
     Available versions:  
        (1)     1.2.10-r12
        (2)     2.16.6 2.18.6 (~)2.18.7 2.18.9{tbz2} (~)2.20.1-r1{tbz2}
        {aqua cups debug doc +introspection jpeg jpeg2k linguas_az linguas_ca linguas_cs 
linguas_da linguas_de linguas_el linguas_es linguas_et linguas_eu linguas_fi linguas_fr 
linguas_ga linguas_gl linguas_hr linguas_hu linguas_it linguas_ja linguas_ko linguas_lt 
linguas_nl linguas_nn linguas_no linguas_pl linguas_pt linguas_pt_BR linguas_ro linguas_ru 
linguas_sk linguas_sl linguas_sr linguas_sv linguas_tr linguas_uk linguas_vi nls test tiff 
vim-syntax xinerama}
     Installed versions:  2.20.1-r1(2){tbz2}(08:06:56 PM 06/16/2010)(jpeg -aqua -cups -debug 
-doc -jpeg2k -test -tiff -vim-syntax -xinerama)



Portage 2.1.8.3 (selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened, gcc-4.3.5, glibc-2.11.1-r0, 2.6.32-hardened-r9 
i686)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-2.6.32-hardened-r9-i686-AMD_Athlon-TM-_XP_1700+-with-gentoo-2.0.1
Timestamp of tree: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:45:01 +0000
app-shells/bash:     4.1_p7
dev-lang/python:     2.6.5-r2, 3.1.2-r3
dev-util/cmake:      2.8.1-r2
sys-apps/baselayout: 2.0.1
sys-apps/openrc:     0.6.1-r1
sys-apps/sandbox:    2.2
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.65-r1
sys-devel/automake:  1.8.5-r4, 1.11.1
sys-devel/binutils:  2.20.1-r1
sys-devel/gcc:       4.3.5
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1
sys-devel/libtool:   2.2.10
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.34
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86 ~x86"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf 
/etc/gentoo-release /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo"
CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe"
FEATURES="assume-digests buildpkg distlocks fixpackages loadpolicy news parallel-fetch 
protect-owned sandbox selinux sesandbox sfperms strict unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
USE="X acpi alsa berkdb cairo cli cracklib crypt curl cxx dri flac fortran gnutls gtk hal 
hardened iconv libsamplerate mad modules mudflap ncurses nls nptl openmp pam pcre perl pic pppd 
python readline reflection secure-delete selinux session spl ssl tcpd x86 xcb xorg zlib" 
ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 
ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx 
via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug 
file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route 
share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm 
authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner 
authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter 
file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation 
rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" ELIBC="glibc" 
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 
lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LINGUAS="hu en" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby18" USERLAND="GNU" 
VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" XTABLES_ADDONS="quota2 psd pknock lscan length2 ipv4options ipset ipp2p 
iface geoip fuzzy condition tee tarpit sysrq steal rawnat logmark ipmark dhcpmac delude chaos account" 
Unset:  CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LC_ALL, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, 
PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS



As you can see, I have a hardened system, 
but on the gentoo-hardened list, the guys
doesn't have problems with 2D.

I also tried the relevant radeon driver options
in xorg.conf, but didn't help.

So, thank you all for your patience.
(Right now, I'm upgrading gcc and then
have an emerge -e world at night just to 
be sure)

Regards, 
bendeguz