From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OQ5Fr-0004MC-DF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:07:08 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F15D0E0B17 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.virtyou.com (mx.virtyou.com [94.23.166.77]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49733E0965 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from weird.localnet (p4FF04F35.dip.t-dialin.net [79.240.79.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.virtyou.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11F824A800C for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:23:43 +0200 (CEST) To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here! From: Alex Schuster Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:23:42 +0200 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201006192223.42383.wonko@wonkology.org> X-Archives-Salt: 8aa142d7-f44a-4ded-b45d-9401fbacf6d4 X-Archives-Hash: eecd0ac5417ac82cfc59f7ec38cfdc99 Whoops, sorry for the other posting. Suddenly this mail got sent, and some empty kmail windows opened. Probably due to this effect I sometimes experience: The last keypress gets repeated all over the time, and when I move the mouse over other windows weird things may happen. Pressing keys like Ctrl-Alt-Shift stops it after a while. Mick writes: > Before you read specific answers below, you may want to check: > > $ echo $XDG_DATA_DIRS > /usr/local/share:/usr/share > > in your logs is shows: > > Environment variable XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to > '/usr/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share' > > Why is /usr/share in there twice? Could this mess things up? Seems to be normal, I also have this with a fresh setup. > On 17 June 2010 00:23, Alex Schuster wrote: > [snip ...] > > > Mick wrote: > >> On Tuesday 09 March 2010 20:12:09 Alex Schuster wrote: > > But: There are errors when akonadi is starting up during login. I > > think it did not do this when I wrote the last mail, but probably > > this is the problem now for the migration does not work. I attached > > the error parts of the log. > > Can you run /etc/init.d/dbus restart before you try again? Your > akonadi log complains about dbus (amidst other things). This service is running - I think KDM did not even come up when I had it off once. This must be some KDE-internal dbus error. > > And I looked for your posting, and searched all of my gentoo-user > > archive, but somehow I did not find it. If you think it would help > > in my case, and if you still have it at hand, it would be nice if > > you could direct me to it (the subject would be enough). > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/224044 Thanks! Now I remember reading it. > >>> I tried to figure out what this was, and how to get the error > >>> message in English, but then I found out that I only have to > >>> restart kontact. Fine, now I want to add a contact. First, when I > >>> want to edit the location, the country is set to Afghanistan, I > >>> always have to change this to Germany. > >>> Annoying, why is this so, who would want this behaviour, except for > >>> Afghans perhaps. > >> > >> Have you tried to set up your locale in systemsettings to Germany? > > > > Yes, it's set like that. > > Have you set up your local timezone in /etc/conf.d/clock, in case this > affects it? It's set correctly. I'd guess Afghanistan ist simpy the first entry in the list of countries, and no one bothered to make the user's country default. Or do you have another default? > > - Strigi indexes some directory over and over again and again and > > again and again. And again and again. Then it crashes, and when I > > re-activate it, it indexes the folder again and again and again. And > > so on. > > You may want to switch off strigi in systemsettings? That's what I do. But still I'd like to use those desktop indexing features. > BTW, have you tried removing ~/.kde4 and then login into KDE afresh? Boy, do I hate to do this. Getting all the settings back takes so much work. But now I did it anyways. It took me several hours, and still not everying is back as it was, but at least I have I cleaner setup now. This desktop activity stuff is a mess to set up. I have 8 desktops for different things I do, each one with its own activity. That is, those KDE plasmoids appear on that desktop only, not on every one. But while you can send a window to any desktop easily, moving a plasmoid from one activity to another does not seem to be possible. When I accidentally selected Enlightenment-KDE instead of Enlightenment, KDE4 started up with Enlightenment as window manager, which messed up the location of each desktop. I had to edit stuff in .kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop- appletsrc by hand to correct this. Impressions: Some things are indeed fixed. - Konqueror now respects the setting that it should ask before closing a window with multiple tabs. - Dolphin no longer opens maximized. - Ark no longer opens the home directory with dolphin when extracting files. - And Akonadi starts without errors! Except for the last login, when again no resource agents were found. Did not happen again (yet). KDE4 Problems that still happen: - Strigi scans already indexed files, then crashes. Repeats a cuple of times, then exits. Syslog shows sefgaults in nepomukservices. - Dolphin FTP does not work with Umlauts. And I have to enter the password twice. - Konsole profiles have to be activated in the profile dialog before they show up in the menu. - Kmail did not save this e-mail, I lost my edits when my whole system just crashed. Now I wonder what _this_ was. - Sessions are often saved incorrectly. Then some konquerors are missing, a dolphin is on the wrong desktop. - At session startup, konqueror always complains it dies unexpectedly and offers to restore the session, unless I close every instance before logout. - This session restore of konquereror works sometimes, and sometimes not. And all konqueror windows it opens belong to the same process, so when one window dies, all die. - No automatic spell checking in kmail. And no English language to select, only German. - When the desktop is locked, the password dialog sometimes does not accept the password. It is all lowercase letters, letter position independent of keyboard layout. Switching to a text console and back helped. Oh, did I already mention that sometimes when switching back into graphics mode, I get an empty screen, and have to reboot then? - Under heavy load, when switching to a locked desktop, it sometimes takes quite a while until it blanks and the password dialog appears. In the meantime, it probably cannot be used, but at least everything is clearly visible. - Trying to move a plasmoid from the panel onto the desktops crashes plasma. - This plasma stuff has its problems. Sometimes plasmoids have the wrong position, or refuse to be dragged or changed in size (they return to the former state after the operation). - I thought it was gone... but then again the mouse only worked in parts of the active window. When I close it via keyboard, the next active windows becomes partially responsive to the mouse. I have to log out then. - KDE4 eats A LOT of memory. I have about 30 tabs open in konquerors, this alone is 1 GB after a while. And X is not much less. - nspluginviewer processes often eat a lot of CPU power. So I frequently kill them with killall nspluginviewer, I have a little button for this purpose in the panel. And system loads gets much lower. It's still quite high, though. - I'm sure I forgot some. Other frequent problems: - This repeating key problem I mentioned. And sometimes I have some sort of caps lock feature, but for Ctrl or Alt. I can remove it by pressing all those meta keys at once. - After using the fullscreen mode of VMware, modifier keys like alt, shift and ctrl stopped working, except inside an NX session I had also running. - Starting a specific program that ready 1.5 GB of data just made the system hang for two times. The Magic SysRq stuff worked, although I did not get out of graphics mode, so I had to reboot. - Suspending to RAM does not work at all. - Hibernating with TuxOnIce works sometimes, but sometimes resuming stops with some "Opening LUKS. Killed." message, or the suspend image is ignored and a normal boot happens. - I have a Radeon HD 3200. I tried the radeon drivers instead of ati- drivers (fglrx), but did not get acceleration ([dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed (libdri too old)). But thats's still be best result I ever got with tose drivers. I removed the blocking ati-drivers and updated to xorg 1.8, then radeon worked with acceleration. But when I move the mouse onto the panel in KDE4, X dies instantly without anything in syslog except for a 'X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly' message. - mplayer sometimes play videos with colors totally messed up, like if some parameter like brightness or gamme was set realyl really high, so sometimes nothing at all can be seen. Wonko