From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OQ3WY-0004qD-IK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:16:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 772A3E0B2E for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.virtyou.com (mx.virtyou.com [94.23.166.77]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD29E0A9A for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from weird.localnet (p4FF04F35.dip.t-dialin.net [79.240.79.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.virtyou.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8DDBD4A800C for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:04:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Alex Schuster To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here! Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:03:59 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.3 (Linux/2.6.33-tuxonice-r2; KDE/4.4.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <9acccfe51002231827q26e94e64s7f29ec46b6675156@mail.gmail.com> <201006170123.49426.wonko@wonkology.org> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201006192104.01397.wonko@wonkology.org> X-Archives-Salt: 8d9c03d5-f636-480c-aebf-942c84e6c378 X-Archives-Hash: 84b4bf6bc913f198a77f0f6ac904be30 Mick writes: > Before you read specific answers below, you may want to check: > > $ echo $XDG_DATA_DIRS > /usr/local/share:/usr/share > > in your logs is shows: > > Environment variable XDG_DATA_DIRS is set to > '/usr/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share' > > Why is /usr/share in there twice? Could this mess things up? > > On 17 June 2010 00:23, Alex Schuster wrote: > [snip ...] > > > Mick wrote: > >> On Tuesday 09 March 2010 20:12:09 Alex Schuster wrote: > >>> - Kontact. The old address book I had imported fro KDE 3.5 half a > >>> year ago showed one "address book" and many std.vcf (or similar) > >>> files, with my data scattered on them. I moved all stuff into the > >>> "address book", and did not use it for a while > >>> Now I wanted to do so, but it did not run due to an error with > >>> akonadi. > >> > >> Did you try to create a local resource using your systemsettings and > >> point it to the local KDE3.5 contacts file? If you restart the > >> address book, then akonadi will kick in a carry out the migration - > >> if it does not succeed it will tell you so. In that case you may > >> need to fix things manually (I've posted how in an older thread of > >> mine, where I managed to make akonadi to succeed in its migration > >> from a local resource file using sqlite - I don't have mysql in > >> this box. Let me know if you can't find it.) > > > > I just tried that. I first added a dir-resource, as there are several > > .vcf files in my .kde3.5/share/appes/kabc directory. BTW, I had to > > copy that directory, as the file chooser did not show directories > > starting with a dot. > > Nothing happened when I restarted kontact. I did the same with a > > file- resource, when I noticed that all the .vcf files were > > identical. Again, nothing happened. > > > > But: There are errors when akonadi is starting up during login. I > > think it did not do this when I wrote the last mail, but probably > > this is the problem now for the migration does not work. I attached > > the error parts of the log. > > Can you run /etc/init.d/dbus restart before you try again? Your > akonadi log complains about dbus (amidst other things). > > > And I looked for your posting, and searched all of my gentoo-user > > archive, but somehow I did not find it. If you think it would help > > in my case, and if you still have it at hand, it would be nice if > > you could direct me to it (the subject would be enough). > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/224044 > > but this was about me being able to run the akonadi migration without > having to install mysql. I used sqlite instead. Have a look at the > file I refer to anyway, just in case something is amiss in there. > > >>> I tried to figure out what this was, and how to get the error > >>> message in English, but then I found out that I only have to > >>> restart kontact. Fine, now I want to add a contact. First, when I > >>> want to edit the location, the country is set to Afghanistan, I > >>> always have to change this to Germany. > >>> Annoying, why is this so, who would want this behaviour, except for > >>> Afghans perhaps. > >> > >> Have you tried to set up your locale in systemsettings to Germany? > > > > Yes, it's set like that. > > Have you set up your local timezone in /etc/conf.d/clock, in case this > affects it? > > >>> - Dolphin can do FTP, but I have to repeat the login process > >>> several times until I see the destination files. > >> > >> I've also noticed an error when I try to connect with ftp saying > >> that the connection failed, but then if I click on reload it > >> connects fine. > > > > Works sometimes, and sometimes not. Also, sometimes the content is > > not updated when I dragged files via FTP. > > Other current dolphin problems: > > - Opens maximized horizontally every time, except at session startup. > > - The sorting is strange sometimes: Foo-1.srt, Foo-2.avi, > > Foo-1.avi, Foo-2.srt > > - When the KDE session comes up, all dolphins have the same view. I'd > > like one of them to have a different view, but when I do this, next > > time the session comes up all dolphins will have this view, too. > > There is an option to remember every folder's view, but every time I > > open a new folder, it opens in symbol view first, not in the current > > view of the upper folder. > > These could all be bugs with dolphin. I've had different problems > with it on 3 Gentoo boxen + 1 Ubuntu. > > >>> - Of course, Amarok keeps doing weird things. At least I can play > >>> music from my collection. But playing a stream sometimes crashes > >>> it. And dragging files into Amarok always leads to a crash. Yeah, > >>> I know, Amarok is not KDE. > >> > >> Given up on that long ago (and sadly have not found a nice > >> replacement which won't pull in the whole of Gnome or worse) > > > > It's getting better. It's more stable, and startup time is now 30 > > seconds instead of 7 minutes. > > Have you tried clementine? It has the look of Amarok. > > I had a go at Clementine, but if I recall correctly it wasn't friendly > with shoutcast streams. > > >>> But at least one bug was fixed, I got a mail from bugzilla about > >>> this today. It's the bug that makes password dialogs not work if > >>> the password is to be displayed as three bullets. Wow, nearly two > >>> months after it had been reported, this serious bug was at least > >>> confirmed to exist and is fixed now. Maybe this bug happens > >>> seldomly, but when it happens, much of KDE4 is unusable, as you > >>> have no kmail, no kwallet, nothing that needs a password works. > >> > >> Hmm ... no such problem over here. > > > > Had you set the password dialog to show 3 bullets for each key > > pressed? > > > > Another pretty bad thing that happened: Once when I started kontact, > > it showed me a birthday I had forgotten, two days AFTER the birthday > > It did not bother to remind me the days before when kontact was > > runing all the time. Now, what's the purpose of an organizer when > > you cannot trust it to show appointments? Good thing I don't use it > > much. > > > >>> Dale, you brave, brave man, are you really using KDE4 now? > > > > Still thinking about dumping it. The current most annoying bug is > > that about once a day the mouse stops working. I can move it, xeyes > > keeps watching it, and sometimes I can still use it inside a part of > > klast active window. But for nothing else. So I have to log out and > > back in again. > > I'm not sure what the problem is, it happened after I updated to > > kde-4.4.3, xorg-1.7 and ati-drivers 10.4. Downgrading ati-drivers did > > not help, downgrading xorg did not succeed, I got compilation errors > > and gave up, as I suspect that it's KDE itself. But a downgrade to > > 4.4.2 would take a while, and I'd expect that alll hell might breake > > loose if I let this older version mess with my current .kde4 > > directory. > > I hoped that a reinstall (because switching to a 64 bit OS) would > > magically solve this, but it didn't. I tried to kill and restart kwin > > and plasma-desktop, this did not help. > > > > Current list of other, but not so bad problems: > > - Konquerer used to ask if I really want to close it, or just the > > current tab. Not since 4.4.4. > > - Ark cannot save all selected files via drag&drop, only one. And > > then it opens the home folder with dolphin, not the destination > > folder. - Automatic spell checking no longer happens in kmail or > > konqueror. - Session saving sometimes fails. I always back up my > > .kde4 before I dare this. > > - Once my activities were on the wrong desktops, it took me a while > > until I had thinsg back as they should be. > > - Konqueror crashes a lot. > > - And every login the dialog comes up telling me that konqueror > > crashed, unless I quit every running instance before logging out of > > KDE. - Konsole profiles show up in the menu only after I activated > > them in the profile dialog. Some of the things I have to repeat > > after every login into KDE. > > - Strigi indexes some directory over and over again and again and > > again and again. And again and again. Then it crashes, and when I > > re-activate it, it indexes the folder again and again and again. And > > so on. > > You may want to switch off strigi in systemsettings? That's what I do. But I'd like to use those desktop indexing features. > > BTW, have you tried removing ~/.kde4 and then login into KDE afresh? Boy, do I hate to do this. Getting all the settings back takes so much work. But now I did it anyways. It took me several hours, and still not everying is back as it was, but at least I have I cleaner setup now. Impressions: Some things are indeed fixed. - Konqueror now respects the setting that it should ask before closing a window with multiple tabs. - Dolphin no longer opens maximized. - Ark no longer opens the home directory with dolphin when extracting files. - Akonadi starts without errors! Problems that still happen: - Strigi scans already indexed files, then crashes. Repeates a cuple of times, then exits. - Dolphin FTP does not work with Umlauts. - Konsole profiles have to be activated in the profile dialog before they show up in the menu. - Kmail did not save this e-mail, I lost my edits when my whole system just crashed. Now I wonder what _this_ was. - Sessions are often saved incorrectly. Then some konquerors are missing, a dolphin is on the wrong desktop. - Trying to move a plasmoid from the panel onto the desktops crashes plasma.