Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

[Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>]

On Sonntag 23 Mai 2010, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
> On Sunday 23 May 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Sonntag 23 Mai 2010, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:21:39 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
> > > > It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so
> > > > that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could
> > > > subscribe in the first place. Example:
> > > > 
> > > > - user subscribes
> > > > - mailing list replies: "please unsubscribe and subscribe again"
> > > > - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time,
> > > > forcibly unsubscribe him
> > > > - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second
> > > > subscription.
> > > 
> > > And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is
> > > fallible, as no-one knows better than I do.
> > > 
> > > Better for this purpose would be to require all mailing lists to
> > > operate in the same way, but that's equally unlikely, as well as
> > > undesirable.
> > > 
> > > > Just saying...
> > > 
> > > What does that mean? I had a mother-in-law once who often added it to a
> > > critical remark, and I never understood what she meant by it either.
> > 
> > and for the uncurable stupid, unsubscribe instructions are in the header
> > of
> 
> > every mail send:
> I wouldn't call people who don't know how to unsubscribe stupid, as they
> most certainly aren't.
> But for sure, they should know how to find that information if needed, and
> all the "HELP UNSUBSCRIBE" kind of messages clearly show that they don't.
> 
> And even your posting of the instructions now, cannot help future
> subscribers who won't read your email. That's why it would probably be
> better (in my opinion) to append the instructions to every message. But
> this is a very old debate and was discussed to death many times in the
> past, so I'm certainly not going to further it (and I hope it won't start
> another endless thread).
> 
> (this is not directed to you Volker)
> 
> If somebody wants to flame or continue to criticize, feel free to do that,
> I won't reply anyway as I have nothing more to add to what I've said
> already.

yeah, 'search mailing list archive' is such a hard thing to do. Why again 
should laziness be tolerated?