From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OFoHM-0006sA-Q7 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 22 May 2010 12:58:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77E58E09E5; Sat, 22 May 2010 12:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABD9E09E5 for ; Sat, 22 May 2010 12:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so1486391fxm.40 for ; Sat, 22 May 2010 05:57:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=FpER1UruLwVe35xg3P8yZUXZ2JKOniPArH1ak8d7mTE=; b=EtyV9Ix9LgKwQ289kiPm5PQ7Z619mY1FrR/vcutdXm/isXLvnZz8EeXx8gO7m6BjE6 8lZHQD0Q14uzkqFnq2yzunSKQGLZXI6J9eVwBDv6znZiwS1xWXCkd94LYIGosQ+xycoP hZCDi7ge7Nh1yqpYpns/IVal6hWqaowXdP1Og= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=g1NIaFcfma/tXGkctCItMfwxvuqiMeHB4CP/MtHm8KhdcIYXyRjskwVDrn+EK15AFw U7adq1kBF6me+VWT/RP5p8DJn7c7Xr8sXRsj9WbN8+ClRdcC64tQs2D5j8j9aunDrvkO dOkw97F8dsuOzvy2fxGnqL7xdx6a+vrISpMLk= Received: by 10.223.32.85 with SMTP id b21mr2599212fad.95.1274533055531; Sat, 22 May 2010 05:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from energy.localnet (p5DCC0A6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.10.108]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j23sm9504629faa.2.2010.05.22.05.57.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 22 May 2010 05:57:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't get PulseAudio to work Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 14:57:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.3 (Linux/2.6.33.3r4; KDE/4.4.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <201005221324.35405.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201005221457.33314.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: d16bb94b-78b5-460c-9d40-ad9bbcff588e X-Archives-Hash: c162aa1d525705d7b900220ce762a0ae On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 05/22/2010 02:24 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 05/22/2010 01:46 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >>>> On 05/22/2010 12:34 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>>>> On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >>>>>> This installed PulseAudio and rebuilt all applications to drop OSS > >>>>>> support and use ALSA or Pulse instead. > >>>>> > >>>>> sure? > >>>> > >>>> Never mind, found the problem after googling a lot: > >>>> > >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2010-January/023768.h > >>>> tm l > >>>> > >>>> PA does not work without ConsoleKit, yet the ebuild did not pull CK as > >>>> a dep :-/ Will file a bug about it. > >>>> > >>>> As for the results, it's pretty much as I expected: latency cannot > >>>> compete with OSS4's vmix. But it isn't worse than stand-alone > >>>> ALSA+dmix though, which is surprising. > >>>> > >>>> Another problem: Amarok 2 stopped working. That is, it loads OK, but > >>>> there's no sound at all when playing something with the Xine backend. > >>>> The Gstreamer backend works, but (as always) sound quality sucks (pops > >>>> and crackles). Any way to get Phonon-Xine to work with PA? I tried > >>>> to set "audio.driver:alsa" in ~/.xine/config, but to no avail; still > >>>> no sound. > >>> > >>> yeah, with that set it tries to use alsa, not PA. > >> > >> "audio.driver:pulse" also doesn't work :-/ > >> > >>> Why again are you wasting your time with PA? > >> > >> Because people claim ALSA+Pulse is better than OSS4. So I ought to > >> actually try it "with a correct setup, unlike the broken Ubuntu setup", > >> or else everyone will keep saying I don't know what I'm talking about. > > > > really? There are people claiming that? ok, everything is better than > > OSS4 - but PA? That crap is almost as bad as ESD. > > Well if I'm going to use ALSA I need something that gives me > per-application volume control since ALSA is too broken to even provide > that while the rest of the world moved on. funny how I can change the volume in wesnoth or vlc, independent from the rest. You are blaming the wrong people here.