From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OFCu5-0002yb-5i for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 20 May 2010 21:03:41 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41342E07A8 for ; Fri, 21 May 2010 02:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF90E07EE for ; Fri, 21 May 2010 01:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg30 with SMTP id 30so296205wwg.40 for ; Thu, 20 May 2010 18:09:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4dUJm446rD2Z/c60TTwPtBpXN9gbnZeUOSUgHZZmLbM=; b=SSD+qzH12ZUjaZY081jF635uMW6ouWugdyRHEPbJmZPmCjkyaqNkGQ5oVIaAL1ZdTX +CweBdjRDI1WinFdm4t2/nQ3/SOQLK7M2FbNolGt7L9wtIfLpf8QiF+dRHUZVJUDaamK ru1VQQ8oY/CEnStpZuICWfesC15+ii2/3G8yo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RUmCxsf1UQfOAZQWcR4DMYAXtov11guOMmUvyftGIy0fOz4JcxNFD8w04EYwSVYijt ycFCcRSlAB/m6w6AxPk0bgtdiowDVRIyJK7zvMyEQk+aKlW7M+p6RSrNAWsQaFHzrz8F duafsIu7khkiJ9HB3qotfiLsVAzQzP/ngRnHM= Received: by 10.227.155.204 with SMTP id t12mr713210wbw.29.1274404167176; Thu, 20 May 2010 18:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from box (cpc4-brad12-0-0-cust35.barn.cable.virginmedia.com [62.31.39.36]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f8sm3266415wbe.23.2010.05.20.18.09.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 May 2010 18:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 02:08:23 +0100 From: Jonathan To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem Message-ID: <20100521020823.717e865c@box> In-Reply-To: References: <201005192159.29314.koesterreich@gmx.net> <201005201015.41416.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <201005201313.21106.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1b45b8f4-d50c-4357-8f96-a3f561afad50 X-Archives-Hash: 49c49a7bb6c969b7aa02e702d38589c2 >Sorry, but I believe the you are the one being pretentious; how long >has been since you tried PulseAudio? It has come a loooong way, and I >haven't seen any real flames against PulseAudio in many months (and >it's enabled in all major distributions). And that is because it's >working (I repeat my words) "for me and many more". Windows "works" for many people it does not make it the best OS or the only one. In Ubuntu they went from oss to PulseAudio. I bet that 90% of Ubuntu users do not know that PulseAudio uses Alsa. >And to finish, I don't know how much you know about technical >decisions and design, but I know that Linus refused to accept OSS4 in >the kernel, I know that all major distributions decided to go with >PulseAudio, and I know that Intel, Nokia and Google are betting for >it. Why do you think PulseAudio is userspace. Haha Setting up Alsa was/is hard to do but with my on board chip it was plug and play. If Alsa was easy to setup then PulseAudio would not be main stream. Alsa trys to hardware mix if it can not it mixes in software. PulseAudio mixes in software and never trys to mix in hardware. Did I get that right? So if your n900 sound chip can not mix in hardware then you may as well use PulseAudio. As the load is still on the CPU. At the end of the day I want to pick a sound system and use it. I do not want one forced on me.