From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OF6lC-0005EN-GI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 20 May 2010 14:30:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 172F4E0899; Thu, 20 May 2010 19:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4729E0899 for ; Thu, 20 May 2010 19:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg30 with SMTP id 30so123149wwg.40 for ; Thu, 20 May 2010 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=uarFRJcpxbBy0DhPv8BQxVgv4hnjGkkaRzHVb6Ix32I=; b=Qm0761M1MPqLAwgOysYPOjSi6sN1i4d595q53c2jQ0XiJMo4KblwIZ1mQ0dz4cYC08 NVIS6AFC85C7C54pck6FBMfi0cLcKECtqGUSutBveqZvGZkNKAgNp6NYWh4oGrSIqt2w JtTaMZtKJ2Z2akYzgWaoy+/ONRQPG4no9atJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=rOvnqLzVMyU1XbsIokaJ+zRBuiHAnfbVvlu0OhHuz8xyyWRL4Uyrp6mkmPi0+cuV5a 9QAT3RZ0+zw4JeZB8gALNlxQtXZymGQsq5gJFIcacijGg20Jk+0QzxuUvK/bH6EcHQe6 zwVD2hW+MFJUgJZcyuvXiwA6dvKVz4QFdes5M= Received: by 10.227.141.82 with SMTP id l18mr353955wbu.109.1274383783147; Thu, 20 May 2010 12:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-215-57-73.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.215.57.73]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t20sm1432694wbc.4.2010.05.20.12.29.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 May 2010 12:29:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 21:26:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.3 (Linux/2.6.33-ck-r1; KDE/4.4.3; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Graham Murray References: <201005202059.57267.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <87ljbepefc.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <87ljbepefc.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201005202126.24441.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 2607b4a1-4f9b-4ef7-a3a3-8a5adbf017c8 X-Archives-Hash: 0104a922d904493505fb2a344b07b6e3 On Thursday 20 May 2010 21:21:27 Graham Murray wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > > There's an API break between the nouveau driver and the drm in 2.6.3[23] > > (not completely sure about the versions) > > > > Hence the workaround of nouveau-drm > > > > Hopefully it will be *very* temporary > > It is. 2.6.34 (which is in ~arch) fixes the API break with the Nouveau > driver. That's good news. The next question is the horrible one: does nouveau actually work* yet? I had to switch back to nvidia proprietary as mouveau had every imaginable feature I want (especially how to deal with two monitors in a sane way) and the features functioned correctly, excep that the whole package did not work. *work: By this I mean work to be synonymous with "perform at adequate speed". 500ms lag on getting a 2D desktop to do something is not defined as "perform" The engineer in me says this is really just a matter of finding the correct 4 bits to flip in the right register at the right time, so I have high hope for nouveau. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com