[gentoo-user] xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[gentoo-user] xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[meino.cramer]

Hi,

I updated to the newest nvidia-drivers-195.36.24 and to xorg-1.80.
Afterwards I etc-updated and recompiled the output of 
qlist -I -C x11-drivers and did a modprobe -r.
I rebooted. X11 starts with no problem but the keyboard
and the mouse were not responding.

The xorg logfiles says that there are no input-devices
specified and that module dri and dri2 couldn't be found.
A quick look at man xorg.conf says nothing about definitions
of input devices.
The previous versions has had no problems with my xorg.conf,
so something added with the latest update may have killed
the functionality...

What did I wrong?

Thank you very much in advance for any help in advance!

Best regards,
mcc



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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[Justin]

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On 25/04/10 14:25, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I updated to the newest nvidia-drivers-195.36.24 and to xorg-1.80.
> Afterwards I etc-updated and recompiled the output of 
> qlist -I -C x11-drivers and did a modprobe -r.
> I rebooted. X11 starts with no problem but the keyboard
> and the mouse were not responding.
> 
> The xorg logfiles says that there are no input-devices
> specified and that module dri and dri2 couldn't be found.
> A quick look at man xorg.conf says nothing about definitions
> of input devices.
> The previous versions has had no problems with my xorg.conf,
> so something added with the latest update may have killed
> the functionality...
> 
> What did I wrong?
> 
> Thank you very much in advance for any help in advance!
> 
> Best regards,
> mcc
> 
> 
> 

Simple question:

Did you follow the official gentoo xorg-1.8 guide and did you follow the
elog msgs?

justin


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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[meino.cramer]

Justin <justin@j-schmitz.net> [10-04-25 14:37]:
> On 25/04/10 14:25, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I updated to the newest nvidia-drivers-195.36.24 and to xorg-1.80.
> > Afterwards I etc-updated and recompiled the output of 
> > qlist -I -C x11-drivers and did a modprobe -r.
> > I rebooted. X11 starts with no problem but the keyboard
> > and the mouse were not responding.
> > 
> > The xorg logfiles says that there are no input-devices
> > specified and that module dri and dri2 couldn't be found.
> > A quick look at man xorg.conf says nothing about definitions
> > of input devices.
> > The previous versions has had no problems with my xorg.conf,
> > so something added with the latest update may have killed
> > the functionality...
> > 
> > What did I wrong?
> > 
> > Thank you very much in advance for any help in advance!
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > mcc
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Simple question:
> 
> Did you follow the official gentoo xorg-1.8 guide and did you follow the
> elog msgs?
> 
> justin
> 

Simple answer: I followed the elog messages, which do nothing say
about any extra-guide on the gentoo-site... :-/


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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[Davide Carnovale]

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Hi,
something like that happened to me too, i am guilty of not having followed
the guide, but i solved the problem booting from a live cd, chrooting into
my gentoo and rebuilding xf86-input-* packages
HTH
Davide

2010/4/25 <meino.cramer@gmx.de>

> Justin <justin@j-schmitz.net> [10-04-25 14:37]:
> > On 25/04/10 14:25, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I updated to the newest nvidia-drivers-195.36.24 and to xorg-1.80.
> > > Afterwards I etc-updated and recompiled the output of
> > > qlist -I -C x11-drivers and did a modprobe -r.
> > > I rebooted. X11 starts with no problem but the keyboard
> > > and the mouse were not responding.
> > >
> > > The xorg logfiles says that there are no input-devices
> > > specified and that module dri and dri2 couldn't be found.
> > > A quick look at man xorg.conf says nothing about definitions
> > > of input devices.
> > > The previous versions has had no problems with my xorg.conf,
> > > so something added with the latest update may have killed
> > > the functionality...
> > >
> > > What did I wrong?
> > >
> > > Thank you very much in advance for any help in advance!
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > mcc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Simple question:
> >
> > Did you follow the official gentoo xorg-1.8 guide and did you follow the
> > elog msgs?
> >
> > justin
> >
>
> Simple answer: I followed the elog messages, which do nothing say
> about any extra-guide on the gentoo-site... :-/
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[meino.cramer]

..and you are guilty for not reading my initial posting carefully...
:) ;)

I wrote:
> Afterwards I etc-updated and recompiled the output of
> qlist -I -C x11-drivers and did a modprobe -r.

qlist -I -C does output any driver which needs to be rebuilt,
which I did. Result: No mouse no keyboard.




Davide Carnovale <francesco.davide.carnovale@gmail.com> [10-04-25 14:45]:
> Hi,
> something like that happened to me too, i am guilty of not having followed
> the guide, but i solved the problem booting from a live cd, chrooting into
> my gentoo and rebuilding xf86-input-* packages
> HTH
> Davide
> 
> 2010/4/25 <meino.cramer@gmx.de>
> 
> > Justin <justin@j-schmitz.net> [10-04-25 14:37]:
> > > On 25/04/10 14:25, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I updated to the newest nvidia-drivers-195.36.24 and to xorg-1.80.
> > > > Afterwards I etc-updated and recompiled the output of
> > > > qlist -I -C x11-drivers and did a modprobe -r.
> > > > I rebooted. X11 starts with no problem but the keyboard
> > > > and the mouse were not responding.
> > > >
> > > > The xorg logfiles says that there are no input-devices
> > > > specified and that module dri and dri2 couldn't be found.
> > > > A quick look at man xorg.conf says nothing about definitions
> > > > of input devices.
> > > > The previous versions has had no problems with my xorg.conf,
> > > > so something added with the latest update may have killed
> > > > the functionality...
> > > >
> > > > What did I wrong?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much in advance for any help in advance!
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > mcc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Simple question:
> > >
> > > Did you follow the official gentoo xorg-1.8 guide and did you follow the
> > > elog msgs?
> > >
> > > justin
> > >
> >
> > Simple answer: I followed the elog messages, which do nothing say
> > about any extra-guide on the gentoo-site... :-/
> >
> >
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[Daniel Pielmeier]

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meino.cramer@gmx.de schrieb am 25.04.2010 14:25:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I updated to the newest nvidia-drivers-195.36.24 and to xorg-1.80.
> Afterwards I etc-updated and recompiled the output of 
> qlist -I -C x11-drivers and did a modprobe -r.
> I rebooted. X11 starts with no problem but the keyboard
> and the mouse were not responding.
> 
> The xorg logfiles says that there are no input-devices
> specified and that module dri and dri2 couldn't be found.
> A quick look at man xorg.conf says nothing about definitions
> of input devices.
> The previous versions has had no problems with my xorg.conf,
> so something added with the latest update may have killed
> the functionality...
> 
> What did I wrong?
> 
> Thank you very much in advance for any help in advance!

Afaik input devices are managed by udev instead of hal in xorg-1.8. There is an
upgrade guide [1] but I don't know if it is official and finished.

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[Justin]

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On 25/04/10 14:49, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> meino.cramer@gmx.de schrieb am 25.04.2010 14:25:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I updated to the newest nvidia-drivers-195.36.24 and to xorg-1.80.
>> Afterwards I etc-updated and recompiled the output of 
>> qlist -I -C x11-drivers and did a modprobe -r.
>> I rebooted. X11 starts with no problem but the keyboard
>> and the mouse were not responding.
>>
>> The xorg logfiles says that there are no input-devices
>> specified and that module dri and dri2 couldn't be found.
>> A quick look at man xorg.conf says nothing about definitions
>> of input devices.
>> The previous versions has had no problems with my xorg.conf,
>> so something added with the latest update may have killed
>> the functionality...
>>
>> What did I wrong?
>>
>> Thank you very much in advance for any help in advance!
> 
> Afaik input devices are managed by udev instead of hal in xorg-1.8. There is an
> upgrade guide [1] but I don't know if it is official and finished.
> 
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml
> 

That's the one I meant, and I assume that everything hosted on our infra
can considered to be official somehow.

And this what was shown to me from the emerge.

INFO: postinst
You should consider reading upgrade guide for this release:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml

WARN: postinst
You must rebuild all drivers if upgrading from <xorg-server-1.8
because the ABI changed. If you cannot start X because
of module version mismatch errors, this is your problem.
You can generate a list of all installed packages in the x11-drivers
category using this command:
        emerge portage-utils; qlist -I -C x11-drivers/



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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[meino.cramer]

Justin <justin@j-schmitz.net> [10-04-25 15:02]:
> On 25/04/10 14:49, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> > meino.cramer@gmx.de schrieb am 25.04.2010 14:25:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I updated to the newest nvidia-drivers-195.36.24 and to xorg-1.80.
> >> Afterwards I etc-updated and recompiled the output of 
> >> qlist -I -C x11-drivers and did a modprobe -r.
> >> I rebooted. X11 starts with no problem but the keyboard
> >> and the mouse were not responding.
> >>
> >> The xorg logfiles says that there are no input-devices
> >> specified and that module dri and dri2 couldn't be found.
> >> A quick look at man xorg.conf says nothing about definitions
> >> of input devices.
> >> The previous versions has had no problems with my xorg.conf,
> >> so something added with the latest update may have killed
> >> the functionality...
> >>
> >> What did I wrong?
> >>
> >> Thank you very much in advance for any help in advance!
> > 
> > Afaik input devices are managed by udev instead of hal in xorg-1.8. There is an
> > upgrade guide [1] but I don't know if it is official and finished.
> > 
> > [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml
> > 
> 
> That's the one I meant, and I assume that everything hosted on our infra
> can considered to be official somehow.
> 
> And this what was shown to me from the emerge.
> 
> INFO: postinst
> You should consider reading upgrade guide for this release:
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml
> 
> WARN: postinst
> You must rebuild all drivers if upgrading from <xorg-server-1.8
> because the ABI changed. If you cannot start X because
> of module version mismatch errors, this is your problem.
> You can generate a list of all installed packages in the x11-drivers
> category using this command:
>         emerge portage-utils; qlist -I -C x11-drivers/
> 
> 


I included the extra class specification xorg-server-18 needs for
recognizing mouse and keyboard. Useflags, kernelversion und udev
match also.
But I get an error in the Xorg-logfile:

[  2805.694] (II) Initializing extension GLX
[  2806.923] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech N48 (/dev/input/mouse0)
[  2806.923] (**) Logitech N48: Applying InputClass "mouse-all"
[  2806.923] (II) LoadModule: "evdev"
[  2806.923] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
[  2806.973] (II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  2806.973] 	compiled for 1.8.0, module version = 2.4.0
[  2806.973] 	Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[  2806.973] 	ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 9.0
[  2806.973] (**) Logitech N48: always reports core events
[  2806.973] (**) Logitech N48: Device: "/dev/input/mouse0"
[  2806.984] (EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[  2807.016] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[  2807.016] (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Logitech N48"



"Inappropiate ioctl" looks like some version mismatch between kernel
interface and ... what?

udev is recompiled after installation of xorg-server and the kernel
was not changed after that installation...

I simply dont know whats failing there...





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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[walt]

On 04/25/2010 06:28 AM, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:

> [  2806.923] (II) LoadModule: "evdev"
> [  2806.923] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
> [  2806.973] (II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> [  2806.973] 	compiled for 1.8.0, module version = 2.4.0
> [  2806.973] 	Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
> [  2806.973] 	ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 9.0
> [  2806.973] (**) Logitech N48: always reports core events
> [  2806.973] (**) Logitech N48: Device: "/dev/input/mouse0"
> [  2806.984] (EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
> [  2807.016] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
>
>
>
> "Inappropiate ioctl" looks like some version mismatch between kernel
> interface and ... what?

Notice that the error message appeared between loading evdev and unloading
evdev, so I read that as meaning you need to recompile evdev.

I'm not entirely clear yet about how 1.8 handles input devices, but I think
it uses evdev automatically even if you don't have it in your xorg.conf.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[meino.cramer]

walt <w41ter@gmail.com> [10-04-25 17:56]:
> On 04/25/2010 06:28 AM, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> 
> >[  2806.923] (II) LoadModule: "evdev"
> >[  2806.923] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
> >[  2806.973] (II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> >[  2806.973] 	compiled for 1.8.0, module version = 2.4.0
> >[  2806.973] 	Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
> >[  2806.973] 	ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 9.0
> >[  2806.973] (**) Logitech N48: always reports core events
> >[  2806.973] (**) Logitech N48: Device: "/dev/input/mouse0"
> >[  2806.984] (EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for 
> >device
> >[  2807.016] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
> >
> >
> >
> >"Inappropiate ioctl" looks like some version mismatch between kernel
> >interface and ... what?
> 
> Notice that the error message appeared between loading evdev and 
> unloading
> evdev, so I read that as meaning you need to recompile evdev.
> 
> I'm not entirely clear yet about how 1.8 handles input devices, but I 
> think
> it uses evdev automatically even if you don't have it in your 
> xorg.conf.
> 
> 

That was also my first thought, but evdev was recompiled -- as I wrote
in my initial mail...

What next?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[Graham Murray]

meino.cramer@gmx.de writes:


> That was also my first thought, but evdev was recompiled -- as I wrote
> in my initial mail...
>
> What next?

Do you have an InputClass section in your xorg.conf? This is needed for
xorg to use udev to detect input devices.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[meino.cramer]

Graham Murray <graham@gmurray.org.uk> [10-04-25 18:28]:
> meino.cramer@gmx.de writes:
> 
> 
> > That was also my first thought, but evdev was recompiled -- as I wrote
> > in my initial mail...
> >
> > What next?
> 
> Do you have an InputClass section in your xorg.conf? This is needed for
> xorg to use udev to detect input devices.
> 

yes:


Section "InputClass"
    Identifier "keyboard-all"
    Driver "evdev"
    Option "XkbLayout" "de"
    Option "XkbVariant" ",qwertz"
    Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp:switch,compose:rwin,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
    Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
    MatchIsKeyboard "on"
EndSection



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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[walt]

On 04/25/2010 10:05 AM, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> Graham Murray<graham@gmurray.org.uk>  [10-04-25 18:28]:
>> meino.cramer@gmx.de writes:
>>
>>
>>> That was also my first thought, but evdev was recompiled -- as I wrote
>>> in my initial mail...
>>>
>>> What next?
>>
>> Do you have an InputClass section in your xorg.conf? This is needed for
>> xorg to use udev to detect input devices.
>>
>
> yes:
>
>
> Section "InputClass"
>      Identifier "keyboard-all"
>      Driver "evdev"
>      Option "XkbLayout" "de"
>      Option "XkbVariant" ",qwertz"
>      Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp:switch,compose:rwin,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
>      Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
>      MatchIsKeyboard "on"
> EndSection

I have no InputClass section at all, but I don't need all the options you
use.  Might be worth commenting the whole section out just as a test.

I built xorg-server with the hal useflag disabled, and udev flag enabled.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

[meino.cramer]

walt <w41ter@gmail.com> [10-04-26 03:00]:
> On 04/25/2010 10:05 AM, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> >Graham Murray<graham@gmurray.org.uk>  [10-04-25 18:28]:
> >>meino.cramer@gmx.de writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>That was also my first thought, but evdev was recompiled -- as I 
> >>>wrote
> >>>in my initial mail...
> >>>
> >>>What next?
> >>
> >>Do you have an InputClass section in your xorg.conf? This is needed 
> >>for
> >>xorg to use udev to detect input devices.
> >>
> >
> >yes:
> >
> >
> >Section "InputClass"
> >     Identifier "keyboard-all"
> >     Driver "evdev"
> >     Option "XkbLayout" "de"
> >     Option "XkbVariant" ",qwertz"
> >     Option "XkbOptions" 
> >"grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp:switch,compose:rwin,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
> >     Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
> >     MatchIsKeyboard "on"
> >EndSection
> 
> I have no InputClass section at all, but I don't need all the options 
> you
> use.  Might be worth commenting the whole section out just as a test.
> 
> I built xorg-server with the hal useflag disabled, and udev flag 
> enabled.
> 
> 

Sorry guys for not understanding this anymore.
First question after posting my problem was:
"Did you read the guides???"

Now I included exactly what the guides say and
compiled as the ebuild has configured it (hal off,
udev on) and now I am told to remove the stuff again...

I am going back to xorg-server 1.7.6 and wait until
this becomes more consistent.



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