From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O3ywb-0007r7-Px for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:55:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2CACE0A4A; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60811E0A4A for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so2838456wyj.40 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:55:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=z8J/Vl5SNSJhzSIH0nrqTXNXi1mMhx5mH4Ktt7o96vY=; b=JmmPkHyYHDMFm/ZjCuAn3O/crxO8eP65cNpmEQ0j17OC3EEy3DmaBPomPenGw7h7fd +V/Sth+My+NQwNII+lw7boeUQATDKJb5ieM4mW+D71162dhh3uJUqnMe5o4WUoiDzBGf h0Tk3bZlzA0S8rlpQdn5bBTojOxN5e9zhcRzQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=Nl4OW2+H4biAE+9fDABg1+0E/q6kIkETHPNi8xse6gHPkPp5JgDMQyY06zjWUi8U9u MnOjjjjMXBZrQg8tlAV/LViD5uSc7zPbY/z6EOJ5Bc0X/yFkVu/qvlIrcNz+9q0c3u0j SO3EPlNueLYxTr0yqpAEtInWbZgqUGeSuj/V8= Received: by 10.216.163.4 with SMTP id z4mr3854430wek.83.1271714141745; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t27sm4106439wbc.5.2010.04.19.14.55.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:55:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up a fall back ISP SMTP in sendmail Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:55:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (Linux/2.6.32-gentoo-r8; KDE/4.3.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <201004192008.18688.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <201004192120.27804.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201004192120.27804.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3492102.hlTUu79K6V"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201004192255.40714.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: a384c9f6-12b9-43f6-b701-bd5209805e71 X-Archives-Hash: a4dcaee8417495b90c3bd1a35ff5a75f --nextPart3492102.hlTUu79K6V Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday 19 April 2010 20:20:27 you wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2010 21:07:47 Mick wrote: > > On Monday 19 April 2010 15:49:34 Grant Edwards wrote: > > > On 2010-04-19, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > > On 2010-04-18 6:27 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > >> On Sunday 18 April 2010 22:06:44 Mick wrote: > > > >>> I was reminded that I do not understand sendmail enough for my > > > >>> liking. > > > >> > > > >> Does anybody? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's why Wietse invented postfix. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I gave up on sendmail about 12 years ago and switched to qmail and/or > > > postfix. I didn't know anybody was still using sendmail. Is it the > > > default MTA for any of the popular Linux distros? > > > > I am not sure if it is a default MTA but I have a CentOS server which > > comes with it. I guess it's one of these masochistic things that either > > decide to completely avoid learning (like emacs?!) or once you start you > > don't want to let it beat you! :-)) >=20 > I recall this old quip: >=20 > You are not a real Unix sysadmin till you have written a sendmail.cf by > hand. You are insane to attempt it twice. >=20 > ;-) He, he! I thought it went along the lines of: "He who has never hacked sendmail.cf has no soul; he who has hacked sendmail.cf more than once has no brain." - Old Hacker Proverb =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart3492102.hlTUu79K6V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkvM0VwACgkQVTDTR3kpaLZ5MgCfT/RFNpEh+IpOSqgWI0Z+RLPr Dw0An3W1fEfAVBObzjjqNlSVSaVu2FC4 =s+w0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3492102.hlTUu79K6V--