From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O3ysw-0006uN-MX for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:52:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB061E0837; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C42E0794 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb28 with SMTP id 28so331631wwb.40 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:51:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=lvrYOAkVqOCo1YeccMJ1YS38sKLQSABxYETagksBhH4=; b=ROvRe7Oasxb1gjUEhHD+JsI7OCBR9k9xYvMf6LJpQWCXs5dSDWwAy4PwVaG7KybQmG ze9e8ssaudapsRAAYMjMv42NRQf//BzYrhmtTCev/Nbx/hIm5u9sJ9wgURHZKWdUPB2D lTMGCGFiLxKM0yr0/GoFMvUgEANDPGIcUfznw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=snAXmJ7ktVPGcPLa9Cq4axpf369vEACB7V1QfhI3b0jhgC2jriRLnzatHqWcqYi1Cu YyZsEVDG72PXhpPOBMS+uOQ5NtoIduPzgW+HCRsJrr46jd2SMmmLhx7Q7Ffuw6x7DJq4 QVddZUNg+w5LRe4qHhXTAlKV0df3jlNs/iIMk= Received: by 10.216.86.142 with SMTP id w14mr3853055wee.33.1271713872807; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r29sm18669950wbv.3.2010.04.19.14.51.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:51:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up a fall back ISP SMTP in sendmail Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:50:47 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (Linux/2.6.32-gentoo-r8; KDE/4.3.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <201004192119.16540.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201004192119.16540.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1515370.5PRElYJq6l"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201004192251.11426.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 408ced17-f159-452e-8245-95a334704243 X-Archives-Hash: a1ed26e9147a88b96f631d63a6c0e279 --nextPart1515370.5PRElYJq6l Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday 19 April 2010 20:19:16 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2010 16:49:34 Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2010-04-19, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > On 2010-04-18 6:27 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > >> On Sunday 18 April 2010 22:06:44 Mick wrote: > > >>> I was reminded that I do not understand sendmail enough for my > > >>> liking. > > >> > > >> Does anybody? > > > > > > > > > > > > That's why Wietse invented postfix. > > > > > > > > > > I gave up on sendmail about 12 years ago and switched to qmail and/or > > postfix. I didn't know anybody was still using sendmail. Is it the > > default MTA for any of the popular Linux distros? >=20 > Yes. Centos/RedHat et al. The installer has a screen to let you choose, b= ut > if you click-click-click-Yes through it like most numbnuts will, sendmail > is what you get. >=20 > How do I know this? Because I fought valiantly with one of them today. >=20 > I took me 90 minutes to figure out how to add a SmartHost.=20 Ha, ha! You should have asked in this M/L! ;-) > Vogon poetry is > a delight compared to those damn .cf files. And the .mc's aren't much > better. =2Ecf files are strictly for hackers, well, I meant sendmail hacker= s. =20 ;-)=20 The problem is that you'll spend an hour or two setting it all up, it'll wo= rk,=20 you'll never touch it again. Then, two years later something will require = you=20 to reconfigure it and there will be no way on this earth that you will=20 remember what you did or why it made any sense at the time! Ha, ha! :-)) =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart1515370.5PRElYJq6l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkvM0E8ACgkQVTDTR3kpaLZndACeIKyQ9XnMQ/72IgT5gY0h2Y3O 1IYAn0xvEsnvZwwoXlPZyMagivMAIehx =baDw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1515370.5PRElYJq6l--