From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O3wZd-0000Kh-GO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:24:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 491D5E097E; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F972E097E for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb28 with SMTP id 28so238535wwb.40 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:23:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=k2V3hedDRiV8lk5XE+h33gnv9qXjxkj/y8hKKAprcfc=; b=k3RwviZRT//Z1aO2enLBRB2IpwE9vizhw0ge3oNN+eFqWquq0oQvUfAL/+TMUmeQ6a uZRBa23EFsq/6WzUMFu4FqBA0ijFAX4aI+F50gX5zQoD58t1Nfkm8PiL2qoMfhDDqFiY L7hIi7H0nYQv7wq/8UBgYEOELcKM1KSgtA++E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=fnES175CLeheX2p0a3hy7A87SoGY+TCE+a+Kn6FjuZ3nGb3/tJkzurS0x4saZhllY/ aa9cHHxfOEH6xXmYkbOiMsWBpH0455zyjIJcWwqZE4oCZSmzcUQ4BzSWFXeCdO+XXXRq SYtsUoFAaKIWboq4IRKeuA8mSEWiTZLUcf5Gs= Received: by 10.216.86.208 with SMTP id w58mr3597380wee.45.1271705027318; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-185-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.185]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x14sm50948233wbs.6.2010.04.19.12.23.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:23:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up a fall back ISP SMTP in sendmail Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:20:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.2 (Linux/2.6.33-zen1; KDE/4.4.2; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Mick References: <201004192008.18688.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201004192008.18688.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201004192120.27804.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 73f1e5f4-188d-401a-bd9e-87713080faa7 X-Archives-Hash: 32c5e9e306876bcd901d1b6815c3ce67 On Monday 19 April 2010 21:07:47 Mick wrote: > On Monday 19 April 2010 15:49:34 Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2010-04-19, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > On 2010-04-18 6:27 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > >> On Sunday 18 April 2010 22:06:44 Mick wrote: > > >>> I was reminded that I do not understand sendmail enough for my > > >>> liking. > > >> > > >> Does anybody? > > > > > > > > > > > > That's why Wietse invented postfix. > > > > > > > > > > I gave up on sendmail about 12 years ago and switched to qmail and/or > > postfix. I didn't know anybody was still using sendmail. Is it the > > default MTA for any of the popular Linux distros? > > I am not sure if it is a default MTA but I have a CentOS server which comes > with it. I guess it's one of these masochistic things that either decide > to completely avoid learning (like emacs?!) or once you start you don't > want to let it beat you! :-)) I recall this old quip: You are not a real Unix sysadmin till you have written a sendmail.cf by hand. You are insane to attempt it twice. ;-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com