From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O3wYn-0008Vm-06 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:23:09 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE776E0733; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD3FE0733 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so2742244wyj.40 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:22:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=oqOiRXALNAR+YfsV9ZbjSrepkJHZe3xmyf6wPwcz/tc=; b=v6KGGQz3xuC866A40JK09XByrai2mSC9AZqXXUzSVxOlrJ5h1sMfKC2OAMa7MzTz6E /oiG3SMlYYiGVPvxR78TYtfBZSuXk2t2SpOEcENSKCof7QgjJpcSEceu7cEZNYQ5NtnI GDnOMMTtcyjz4EOODynIoXOqj6XpInbHlLuLI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=RoMvXxxXHGWT/UpMmmjD7bFRppFZF3RKdWI8DGAMqEy8inDcgPUqX5GC01aKhhS42R fsitBZXmiNN4E+n6GVgYgqa2T7nWQzJ6R5rIBBCFDixb8UDHjChIMp6Sj9XQqGK3Dgzq L+VAUrr8FqYSGFGAhjRV1LHWQbkni0vtg1H4s= Received: by 10.216.90.145 with SMTP id e17mr685394wef.106.1271704954891; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-185-rrdg-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.185]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l46sm912576wed.10.2010.04.19.12.22.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:22:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up a fall back ISP SMTP in sendmail Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:19:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.2 (Linux/2.6.33-zen1; KDE/4.4.2; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Grant Edwards References: <4BCC2B07.4030408@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201004192119.16540.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 2cfda72f-e2c5-41dc-a546-59f7fed6d9b1 X-Archives-Hash: 80922e559ab33b5ae12dae96309daa63 On Monday 19 April 2010 16:49:34 Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2010-04-19, Tanstaafl wrote: > > On 2010-04-18 6:27 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> On Sunday 18 April 2010 22:06:44 Mick wrote: > >>> I was reminded that I do not understand sendmail enough for my liking. > >> > >> Does anybody? > > > > > > > > That's why Wietse invented postfix. > > > > > > I gave up on sendmail about 12 years ago and switched to qmail and/or > postfix. I didn't know anybody was still using sendmail. Is it the > default MTA for any of the popular Linux distros? Yes. Centos/RedHat et al. The installer has a screen to let you choose, but if you click-click-click-Yes through it like most numbnuts will, sendmail is what you get. How do I know this? Because I fought valiantly with one of them today. I took me 90 minutes to figure out how to add a SmartHost. Vogon poetry is a delight compared to those damn .cf files. And the .mc's aren't much better. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com