From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-109805-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1O1IN0-0005AY-5B for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:04:07 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65F0CE0821; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:03:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2411BE0821 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so2248340bwz.26 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 05:03:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=kM9A/TMXaqYLDKqGvnbm7fOlDscIDx72XfkGkAwuKhI=; b=Ie3XgyD+QUsZnFATfsKvxcgyMvRJRx/q42DYf45bDQPoXAB2NYAniZXf4c3HRnEGq7 Gleq+zchD+SbPSvf/x4FtW6Gxvzta+1rLF1T8SBAGrnM060xIvO3yOkUQMl02LaaSadg 1PXSzLzUOP8N29K7vkDmUhku2/YLjnmYrz3o8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=V26jNgxRq0qrvde9dqFDt/UhRXrVid/3XHNkhfiIegCnbvXTNW8lXnBUJu3EAFXrT+ z1dwjtNygD/PDv6wvIomlqMIkr8xhIg21sSk6STwEW1kw6ZciT2zdi+rAKX6kHbzSuVN 595dmRCKmi9B7p1lei8KyMlan/MyWlBsiW9yY= Received: by 10.204.163.136 with SMTP id a8mr4669238bky.111.1271073815285; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 05:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (dustpuppy.is.co.za [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm37441641bkr.18.2010.04.12.05.03.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 12 Apr 2010 05:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far... Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:00:11 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.2 (Linux/2.6.33-zen1; KDE/4.4.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <v2z5bdc1c8b1004120457l7cf4b9btd52d6c5d4e53f4c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <v2z5bdc1c8b1004120457l7cf4b9btd52d6c5d4e53f4c@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201004121400.11159.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 7e79e4db-706a-42b7-a52b-a0a8f2f11c6d X-Archives-Hash: 89addca28483bd19373add28f091f837 Are you merely ranting or asking for help? If the former, well, OK i Hear you. But I don't care. If the latter, then you need to provide info like logs, output etc. ~amd64 works like a charm for me here. On Monday 12 April 2010 13:57:39 Mark Knecht wrote: > ...is not so good actually. Certainly not the way I'd want others to > experience Gentoo. > > OK, the ~amd64 upgrade to @system was easy and relatively painless. > The documents were fairly clear. There are things to learn, and old > friends like rc-update and df look different, but it worked and didn't > take long - less than an hour to reboot including editing - so that's > good. > > Unfortunately, simply allowing all environments & apps on the system > to go ~amd64 isn't working out as nicely. > > 1) xfce4 had one build failure. I masked it and the build finished. > xfce starts and seems to mostly work, but I get no wallpaper and the > right click for a menu on the desktop doesn't work. It's usable, but > clearly 'not stable'. > > 2) gnome-2.28 simply doesn't build. > > 3) I'm currently left with lots of things in emerge @preserved-rebuild > that don't build. emerge -DuN @world is not clean. > > QUESTION: Assume I'm happy with ~amd64 on @system, but want to build > the stable version of gnome or kde. How do I get it? Since gnome-2.26 > worked yesterday I tried masking >=gnome-2.28. emerge -DuN gnome. > Portage then didn't try to emerge the meta-package but doesn't take > all of gnome back to 2.26. There's no point trying kde as gnome pulled > in kde components that doesn't build either. Hopefully it's not 'mask > every package in gnome by hand'. > > At this point I'm left with a system that's not clean and to me not > terribly useful. Yesterday as stable I built xfce, gnome and kde in > under 4 hours and all 3 worked. Today both gnome and xfce aren't right > and I don't have kde. Probably this is some matter of learning to hold > back portage that I've never done before, rather than unleashing new > packages like you do on a stable system. > > How does one accomplish this? > > Thanks, > Mark -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com