* [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
@ 2010-03-25 19:06 Dale
2010-03-25 19:17 ` Philip Webb
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From: Dale @ 2010-03-25 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hi,
I noticed something today. I was looking at a image that I took with a
camera and it was a bit dark. I think I used Kview in KDE3 and it had a
option to adjust brightness and contrast. I can't find that in the KDE4
Gwenview which I guess replaced the other program I was using. So, I
looked in porthole to see what I could find to use instead. Most of the
home pages show screen shots and all but I can't tell which ones has a
easy brightness/contrast adjustment tool.
Does someone here use something that is fast to load, small, will work
with KDE and adjust brightness/contrast and maybe some other simple
things? Right now, I'm using GIMP but it is serious over kill to just
view a image and tweak a setting or two. It also takes a while to load
as well. I'm looking for something much smaller.
Ideas? Thanks.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-25 19:06 [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments Dale
@ 2010-03-25 19:17 ` Philip Webb
2010-03-25 19:45 ` Dale
2010-03-25 21:46 ` [gentoo-user] " Gene Hannan
2010-03-25 23:51 ` [gentoo-user] " Vincent Launchbury
2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Philip Webb @ 2010-03-25 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
100325 Dale wrote:
> Does someone here use something that is fast to load, small,
> will work with KDE and adjust brightness/contrast
'geeqie'
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-25 19:17 ` Philip Webb
@ 2010-03-25 19:45 ` Dale
2010-03-25 20:47 ` Philip Webb
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From: Dale @ 2010-03-25 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Philip Webb wrote:
> 100325 Dale wrote:
>
>> Does someone here use something that is fast to load, small,
>> will work with KDE and adjust brightness/contrast
>>
> 'geeqie'
>
>
I installed it but can't find any brightness/contrast controls. Do I
have to do something to enable them or something?
[ebuild N ] media-gfx/geeqie-1.0_beta2-r1 USE="exif -lcms -lirc
-xmp" 1,868 kB
Is the lcms option needed for this? It is color management according to
euse -i.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-25 19:45 ` Dale
@ 2010-03-25 20:47 ` Philip Webb
2010-03-25 21:53 ` Dale
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From: Philip Webb @ 2010-03-25 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
100325 Dale wrote:
> Philip Webb wrote:
>> 100325 Dale wrote:
>>> Does someone here use something that is fast to load, small,
>>> will work with KDE and adjust brightness/contrast
>> 'geeqie'
> I installed it but can't find any brightness/contrast controls.
> Do I have to do something to enable them or something?
> [ebuild N ] media-gfx/geeqie-1.0_beta2-r1 USE="exif -lcms -lirc -xmp"
> Is the lcms option needed for this?
> It is color management according to 'euse -i'.
Sorry, I remembered the color management stuff (I have 'lcms') & assumed
it also handled brightness/contrast, but on further inspection, it doesn't.
Krita claims to manipulate images, but I don't have it installed.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-25 20:47 ` Philip Webb
@ 2010-03-25 21:53 ` Dale
2010-03-25 23:40 ` Dale
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2010-03-25 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Philip Webb wrote:
> 100325 Dale wrote:
>
>> Philip Webb wrote:
>>
>>> 100325 Dale wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does someone here use something that is fast to load, small,
>>>> will work with KDE and adjust brightness/contrast
>>>>
>>> 'geeqie'
>>>
>> I installed it but can't find any brightness/contrast controls.
>> Do I have to do something to enable them or something?
>> [ebuild N ] media-gfx/geeqie-1.0_beta2-r1 USE="exif -lcms -lirc -xmp"
>> Is the lcms option needed for this?
>> It is color management according to 'euse -i'.
>>
> Sorry, I remembered the color management stuff (I have 'lcms')& assumed
> it also handled brightness/contrast, but on further inspection, it doesn't.
>
> Krita claims to manipulate images, but I don't have it installed.
>
>
That's OK. I installed it and have to admit it looked nice. I like
GIMP to but it is seriously overkill for this. I'm going to try Krita
and see what it looks like.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-25 21:53 ` Dale
@ 2010-03-25 23:40 ` Dale
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From: Dale @ 2010-03-25 23:40 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Dale wrote:
> Philip Webb wrote:
>> 100325 Dale wrote:
>>> Philip Webb wrote:
>>>> 100325 Dale wrote:
>>>>> Does someone here use something that is fast to load, small,
>>>>> will work with KDE and adjust brightness/contrast
>>>> 'geeqie'
>>> I installed it but can't find any brightness/contrast controls.
>>> Do I have to do something to enable them or something?
>>> [ebuild N ] media-gfx/geeqie-1.0_beta2-r1 USE="exif -lcms -lirc -xmp"
>>> Is the lcms option needed for this?
>>> It is color management according to 'euse -i'.
>> Sorry, I remembered the color management stuff (I have 'lcms')& assumed
>> it also handled brightness/contrast, but on further inspection, it
>> doesn't.
>>
>> Krita claims to manipulate images, but I don't have it installed.
>>
>
> That's OK. I installed it and have to admit it looked nice. I like
> GIMP to but it is seriously overkill for this. I'm going to try Krita
> and see what it looks like.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
>
I got this installed but this is about like GIMP. It takes a while to
load and is somewhat complicated to me, although it looks really nice.
It took about 30 seconds just to open the brightness/contrast tool. The
app took about a minute or two which is about like GIMP.
Anything simpler than this? The old Kview, I think that was the name,
opens in just a few seconds and was really easy to use. It was simple
and fast.
In case someone else runs up on this, it pulls in a lot of dependencies
too. I use kde-meta and it still pulled in several other packages. If
you don't like GIMP, this is worth looking into.
I have days where I just want to keep using KDE3. :/
Dale
:-) :-)
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-25 19:06 [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments Dale
2010-03-25 19:17 ` Philip Webb
@ 2010-03-25 21:46 ` Gene Hannan
2010-03-25 23:51 ` [gentoo-user] " Vincent Launchbury
2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Gene Hannan @ 2010-03-25 21:46 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Dale wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I noticed something today. I was looking at a image that I took with a
> camera and it was a bit dark. I think I used Kview in KDE3 and it had a
> option to adjust brightness and contrast. I can't find that in the KDE4
> Gwenview which I guess replaced the other program I was using. So, I
> looked in porthole to see what I could find to use instead. Most of the
> home pages show screen shots and all but I can't tell which ones has a
> easy brightness/contrast adjustment tool.
>
> Does someone here use something that is fast to load, small, will work
> with KDE and adjust brightness/contrast and maybe some other simple
> things? Right now, I'm using GIMP but it is serious over kill to just
> view a image and tweak a setting or two. It also takes a while to load
> as well. I'm looking for something much smaller.
>
> Ideas? Thanks.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
You might like the photo editor that comes with digikam.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-25 19:06 [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments Dale
2010-03-25 19:17 ` Philip Webb
2010-03-25 21:46 ` [gentoo-user] " Gene Hannan
@ 2010-03-25 23:51 ` Vincent Launchbury
2010-03-26 0:07 ` Dale
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From: Vincent Launchbury @ 2010-03-25 23:51 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 03/25/10 15:06, Dale wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does someone here use something that is fast to load, small, will work
> with KDE and adjust brightness/contrast and maybe some other simple
> things?
> Ideas? Thanks.
How about the display command from imagemagick (with use=X)? It's
smaller than the GIMP, and loads quickly. The interface is a bit clunky,
but it might do what you want. Just run 'display [file]', click on the
image to bring up a menu, then do Enhance -> Brightness. Or use
shortcuts L to adjust brightness and Z/C to dull/sharpen the contrast.
As I said, it's a little clunky, but it might be what you're looking for.
Regards,
Vincent.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-25 23:51 ` [gentoo-user] " Vincent Launchbury
@ 2010-03-26 0:07 ` Dale
2010-03-26 0:59 ` Neil Bothwick
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2010-03-26 0:07 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Vincent Launchbury wrote:
> On 03/25/10 15:06, Dale wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does someone here use something that is fast to load, small, will work
>> with KDE and adjust brightness/contrast and maybe some other simple
>> things?
>> Ideas? Thanks.
>
> How about the display command from imagemagick (with use=X)? It's
> smaller than the GIMP, and loads quickly. The interface is a bit
> clunky, but it might do what you want. Just run 'display [file]',
> click on the image to bring up a menu, then do Enhance -> Brightness.
> Or use shortcuts L to adjust brightness and Z/C to dull/sharpen the
> contrast.
>
> As I said, it's a little clunky, but it might be what you're looking for.
>
> Regards,
> Vincent.
>
>
I have that installed and the USE flag X set. It doesn't run tho. If I
type in image and hit the tab key for autocompletion, it isn't listed.
Has something changed with it since you used it last and this isn't
available now? This is what eix show:
root@smoker ~ # eix imagemagic
[I] media-gfx/imagemagick
Available versions: 6.5.2.9!u ~6.5.4.10!u 6.5.7.0!u
6.5.8.8!u{tbz2} ~6.5.9.4-r1!u {X autotrace bzip2 +corefonts djvu doc
fftw fontconfig fpx graphviz gs hdri jbig jpeg jpeg2k lcms lqr nocxx
openexr openmp perl png q32 q8 raw static-libs svg tiff truetype wmf xml
zlib}
Installed versions: 6.5.8.8!u{tbz2}(17:19:27 03/25/10)(X bzip2
corefonts jbig jpeg jpeg2k openmp perl png svg tiff truetype wmf xml
zlib -autotrace -djvu -doc -fftw -fontconfig -fpx -graphviz -gs -hdri
-lcms -lqr -nocxx -openexr -q32 -q8 -raw)
Homepage: http://www.imagemagick.org/
Description: A collection of tools and libraries for many
image formats
root@smoker ~ #
Thanks.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-26 0:07 ` Dale
@ 2010-03-26 0:59 ` Neil Bothwick
2010-03-26 1:22 ` Dale
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2010-03-26 0:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:07:41 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > How about the display command from imagemagick (with use=X)? It's
> > smaller than the GIMP, and loads quickly. The interface is a bit
> > clunky, but it might do what you want. Just run 'display [file]',
> > click on the image to bring up a menu, then do Enhance -> Brightness.
> > Or use shortcuts L to adjust brightness and Z/C to dull/sharpen the
> > contrast.
> I have that installed and the USE flag X set. It doesn't run tho. If
> I type in image and hit the tab key for autocompletion, it isn't
> listed. Has something changed with it since you used it last and this
> isn't available now?
The package is called imagemagick, the command you need is display.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-26 0:59 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2010-03-26 1:22 ` Dale
2010-03-26 9:09 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-03-26 18:21 ` Willie Wong
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From: Dale @ 2010-03-26 1:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:07:41 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>
>>> How about the display command from imagemagick (with use=X)? It's
>>> smaller than the GIMP, and loads quickly. The interface is a bit
>>> clunky, but it might do what you want. Just run 'display [file]',
>>> click on the image to bring up a menu, then do Enhance -> Brightness.
>>> Or use shortcuts L to adjust brightness and Z/C to dull/sharpen the
>>> contrast.
>>>
>
>> I have that installed and the USE flag X set. It doesn't run tho. If
>> I type in image and hit the tab key for autocompletion, it isn't
>> listed. Has something changed with it since you used it last and this
>> isn't available now?
>>
> The package is called imagemagick, the command you need is display.
>
>
Ooooohhhhhh. Please permit me to add one more needed feature then.
GUI. Some of my pics are nested pretty deep, because of my organizing
skills or lack thereof. LOL
I'm thinking about trying gqview but no clue what it does either. It
looks like I'm going to be using -C and --depclean here in a bit. ;-)
Bad thing is, I sort of like a couple of the ones posted and may want to
keep them installed too. O_o
This reminds me of the cereal isle in a grocery store. We stand there
trying to pick which one we want and 80% of them are made from corn.
Basically the same thing but different and we can't choose the one we want.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-26 1:22 ` Dale
@ 2010-03-26 9:09 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-03-26 14:48 ` Dale
2010-03-26 18:21 ` Willie Wong
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From: Frank Steinmetzger @ 2010-03-26 9:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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Am Freitag, 26. März 2010 schrieb Dale:
> Ooooohhhhhh. Please permit me to add one more needed feature then.
> GUI. Some of my pics are nested pretty deep, because of my organizing
> skills or lack thereof. LOL
> [...]
> This reminds me of the cereal isle in a grocery store. We stand there
> trying to pick which one we want and 80% of them are made from corn.
> Basically the same thing but different and we can't choose the one we want.
That’s easy - I take the big value pack. It’s cheaper per kilogram than the
really good stuff, but still tastes better than the cheap stuff.
But back to the topic:
I believe xv hasn’t been mentioned yet. It’s an old generic image viewer for X
with editing capabilities.
I use Gimp for all editing though. I’m OK with the loading time, because
nothing compares to it feature-wise. I tried krita, but I didn’t like its
shortcomings at navigating in a big/zoomed image. In Gimp I can use (shift and
ctrl plus) the scroll wheel, in Krita, all of those do the same.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-26 9:09 ` Frank Steinmetzger
@ 2010-03-26 14:48 ` Dale
0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2010-03-26 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Freitag, 26. März 2010 schrieb Dale:
>
>
>> Ooooohhhhhh. Please permit me to add one more needed feature then.
>> GUI. Some of my pics are nested pretty deep, because of my organizing
>> skills or lack thereof. LOL
>> [...]
>> This reminds me of the cereal isle in a grocery store. We stand there
>> trying to pick which one we want and 80% of them are made from corn.
>> Basically the same thing but different and we can't choose the one we want.
>>
> That’s easy - I take the big value pack. It’s cheaper per kilogram than the
> really good stuff, but still tastes better than the cheap stuff.
>
> But back to the topic:
> I believe xv hasn’t been mentioned yet. It’s an old generic image viewer for X
> with editing capabilities.
>
> I use Gimp for all editing though. I’m OK with the loading time, because
> nothing compares to it feature-wise. I tried krita, but I didn’t like its
> shortcomings at navigating in a big/zoomed image. In Gimp I can use (shift and
> ctrl plus) the scroll wheel, in Krita, all of those do the same.
>
I get the bagged cereal too. It's as good as the brand name and lots
cheaper. That box must cost a lot to make compared to a baggie. lol
I do use GIMP a lot. When I need to seriously edit a pic, scale, crop,
or do other things then I use GIMP. Most of the time tho, I just want
to open a image and change the brightness so I can see something in it.
I don't even save the change, I just view it.
Maybe I need a faster rig. ;-)
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-26 1:22 ` Dale
2010-03-26 9:09 ` Frank Steinmetzger
@ 2010-03-26 18:21 ` Willie Wong
2010-03-26 19:20 ` Dale
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From: Willie Wong @ 2010-03-26 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 08:22:03PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Ooooohhhhhh. Please permit me to add one more needed feature then.
> GUI. Some of my pics are nested pretty deep, because of my organizing
> skills or lack thereof. LOL
>
How'bout google picasa?
W
--
Willie W. Wong wwong@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-26 18:21 ` Willie Wong
@ 2010-03-26 19:20 ` Dale
2010-03-26 22:42 ` Willie Wong
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2010-03-26 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Willie Wong wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 08:22:03PM -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> Ooooohhhhhh. Please permit me to add one more needed feature then.
>> GUI. Some of my pics are nested pretty deep, because of my organizing
>> skills or lack thereof. LOL
>>
>>
> How'bout google picasa?
>
> W
>
Isn't that pretty large too?
root@smoker ~ # equery size kview
* kde-base/kview-3.5.10
Total files : 110
Total size : 1.09 MiB
root@smoker ~ #
That's pretty small and it loads fast too. I just wish they had a
version for KDE4.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-26 19:20 ` Dale
@ 2010-03-26 22:42 ` Willie Wong
2010-03-26 23:01 ` Dale
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Willie Wong @ 2010-03-26 22:42 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 02:20:32PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> >How'bout google picasa?
> Isn't that pretty large too?
>
> root@smoker ~ # equery size kview
> * kde-base/kview-3.5.10
> Total files : 110
> Total size : 1.09 MiB
> root@smoker ~ #
Yes, it is large, but it has loads of features. Equery size tells me
that picasa is ~100 MiB. But it has all the common image editing
feature you want (include brightness, contrast, resize, crop ...) in a
nice GUI, with a good gallery feature. And it helps with organizing
the pictures. I use it to manage my photos.
For viewing the picture, if size and speed is your main criterion, I
go for media-gfx/qiv. It allows you to change the displayed
brightness/contrast/gamma on the fly, but it is not good for modifying
the files themselves.
W
--
Willie W. Wong wwong@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Image viewer with brightness/contrast adjustments
2010-03-26 22:42 ` Willie Wong
@ 2010-03-26 23:01 ` Dale
0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2010-03-26 23:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Willie Wong wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 02:20:32PM -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>>> How'bout google picasa?
>>>
>
>> Isn't that pretty large too?
>>
>> root@smoker ~ # equery size kview
>> * kde-base/kview-3.5.10
>> Total files : 110
>> Total size : 1.09 MiB
>> root@smoker ~ #
>>
> Yes, it is large, but it has loads of features. Equery size tells me
> that picasa is ~100 MiB. But it has all the common image editing
> feature you want (include brightness, contrast, resize, crop ...) in a
> nice GUI, with a good gallery feature. And it helps with organizing
> the pictures. I use it to manage my photos.
>
> For viewing the picture, if size and speed is your main criterion, I
> go for media-gfx/qiv. It allows you to change the displayed
> brightness/contrast/gamma on the fly, but it is not good for modifying
> the files themselves.
>
> W
>
I installed qiv but it appeared to be command line. I tried to open a
picture but all it did was turn my screen black. Weird.
It is small tho. ;-) It loaded fast but no picture.
Dale
:-) :-)
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