[gentoo-user] CUPS and hp OfficeJet Pro

[gentoo-user] CUPS and hp OfficeJet Pro

[James]

Hello,


I've successfully set up many printers, using cups and HPLIP
before. I prefer to use CUPS.


So I cannot find an explicit listing for this new model HP printer:
"OfficeJet Pro 8500"; so I'm using this driver:
HP OfficeJet Pro 1150C.

Everything works, admin from localhost:631 for CUPS;
HP printer admin from the embedded web server (very cool). It 
has a multitude of settings, but no duplex setting. I'm trying
to avoid using the HP disc on an XP system for admin.......


The HP literature clearly states this is a duplex printer.
I can copy both sides of a letter size document to a single
page, just using the menu on the printer. So I can see that
it duplexes. So I'm concluding (for now) that the problem
is the CUPS (best/closest I could choose) driver does not
support Duplex printing. 


Does anyone know of an HP OfficeJet driver that supports 
duplex printing? I have not been successful in finding a 
CUPS drivers specifically for this printer:
HP OfficeJet Pro (A909g) and I really do not want to use HPLIP.


CUPS-1.4.2-r1 is installed.
Any suggestions are most welcome.

James

Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS and hp OfficeJet Pro

[Dale]

James wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> I've successfully set up many printers, using cups and HPLIP
> before. I prefer to use CUPS.
>
>
> So I cannot find an explicit listing for this new model HP printer:
> "OfficeJet Pro 8500"; so I'm using this driver:
> HP OfficeJet Pro 1150C.
>
> Everything works, admin from localhost:631 for CUPS;
> HP printer admin from the embedded web server (very cool). It
> has a multitude of settings, but no duplex setting. I'm trying
> to avoid using the HP disc on an XP system for admin.......
>
>
> The HP literature clearly states this is a duplex printer.
> I can copy both sides of a letter size document to a single
> page, just using the menu on the printer. So I can see that
> it duplexes. So I'm concluding (for now) that the problem
> is the CUPS (best/closest I could choose) driver does not
> support Duplex printing.
>
>
> Does anyone know of an HP OfficeJet driver that supports
> duplex printing? I have not been successful in finding a
> CUPS drivers specifically for this printer:
> HP OfficeJet Pro (A909g) and I really do not want to use HPLIP.
>
>
> CUPS-1.4.2-r1 is installed.
> Any suggestions are most welcome.
>
> James
>
>    

http://opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=400875#400875

About the third one down.  Maybe that will help.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS and hp OfficeJet Pro

[Daniel Pielmeier]

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James schrieb am 18.03.2010 14:37:

> So I cannot find an explicit listing for this new model HP printer:
> "OfficeJet Pro 8500"; so I'm using this driver:
> HP OfficeJet Pro 1150C.

According to http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html
your printer is supported sine hplip 3.9.2, so there should be a driver.

New versions of hplip do not install ppd files for every printer they support
anymore. The ppd file is generated at run time by using hp-setup.

> eix hplip
> * net-print/hplip
>      Available versions:  2.8.6b ~3.9.8-r3 3.9.12-r1 ~3.10.2 {cupsddk dbus doc
> fax gtk +hpcups hpijs libnotify minimal -new-hpcups parport policykit ppds qt4
> scanner snmp static-ppds -udev-acl}

About the hplip use flags

> cupsddk

Not relevant as it has been removed in recent versions of hplip. With newer
versions of cups you wont need cupsddk as it has been integrated into cups.

> hpcups

Is the new printer driver which replaces the hpijs driver.

> hpijs

See above.

> new-hpcups

You don't need it.

> static-ppds

It seems for some printers the new method of creating the ppd file is not
available. So if you have problems with installing your printer by using
hp-setup you should try installing hplip with the static-ppds flag and try
hp-setup again.

> So hplip and cups work together? I thought is was one
> or the other?
>
>
> You use the hpcups flag and not the new-hpcups flag?

Hplip needs cups!

> I could not help but notice the avahi and zeroconf flags. I do not
> see them. Do I have to install mono-zeroconf and avahi to see those
> flags?
>
> Do you find them useful? What applications are using avahi/zeroconf ?

You don't need avahi or zeroconf for hplip, which does not work for current
versions of hplip due to bugs in cups anyway. This is only needed if you have a
networked printer. You can still detect the printer without the mDNS
(avahi,zeroconf) method through SLP. You should be able to select the detection
method at run time with hp-setup.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS and hp OfficeJet Pro

[Philip Webb]

100318 Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>> hpcups
> Is the new printer driver which replaces the hpijs driver.
>> hpijs
> See above.

Well, I replaced 'hpijs' with 'hpcups' & my printer wouldn't work,
so I restored 'hpijs' & dropped 'hpcups' & all was ok.
It's an ancient Deskjet 500C with the b+w '500' driver.
Installed versions: Cups-1.3.11-r1 Hplip-3.9.12-r1 (both stable).

Any comments or helpful suggestions ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS and hp OfficeJet Pro

[Peter Humphrey]

On Friday 19 March 2010 05:20:47 Philip Webb wrote:

> Well, I replaced 'hpijs' with 'hpcups' & my printer wouldn't work,
> so I restored 'hpijs' & dropped 'hpcups' & all was ok.

I considered doing the same for my DJ4260, but I chickened out as I've 
only just managed to get it working at all after months of struggling, 
culminating with a complete reinstallation of the server it's connected 
to. It stays exactly as it is pro tem:

[ebuild   R   ] net-print/cups-1.3.11-r1  USE="X acl dbus jpeg pam perl 
php png python ssl tiff -avahi -gnutls -java -kerberos -ldap -ppds -samba 
-slp -static -xinetd -zeroconf"
[ebuild   R   ] net-print/hplip-3.9.12-r1  USE="hpcups hpijs libnotify -
doc -fax -gtk -minimal -new-hpcups -parport -policykit -qt4 -scanner -
snmp -static-ppds -udev-acl" 0 kB

-- 
Rgds
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS and hp OfficeJet Pro

[Daniel Pielmeier]

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Philip Webb schrieb am 19.03.2010 06:20:
> 100318 Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>>> hpcups
>> Is the new printer driver which replaces the hpijs driver.
>>> hpijs
>> See above.
> 
> Well, I replaced 'hpijs' with 'hpcups' & my printer wouldn't work,
> so I restored 'hpijs' & dropped 'hpcups' & all was ok.
> It's an ancient Deskjet 500C with the b+w '500' driver.
> Installed versions: Cups-1.3.11-r1 Hplip-3.9.12-r1 (both stable).
> 
> Any comments or helpful suggestions ?
> 

As you sad it is a very old model and already reached "End of support" [1]
state. Hpcups is the new driver and I guess such old models are not supported by
the new driver. Just use the hpijs driver then. The hpijs driver wont disappear
from hplip in the near future.

[1] http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_500c.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS and hp OfficeJet Pro

[Peter Humphrey]

(I sent this 24 hours ago but it hasn't appeared, so I'm sending it 
again.)

On Friday 19 March 2010 05:20:47 Philip Webb wrote:

> Well, I replaced 'hpijs' with 'hpcups' & my printer wouldn't work,
> so I restored 'hpijs' & dropped 'hpcups' & all was ok.

I considered doing the same for my DJ4260, but I chickened out as I've 
only just managed to get it working at all after months of struggling, 
culminating with a complete reinstallation of the server it's connected 
to. It stays exactly as it is pro tem:

[ebuild   R   ] net-print/cups-1.3.11-r1  USE="X acl dbus jpeg pam perl 
php png python ssl tiff -avahi -gnutls -java -kerberos -ldap -ppds -samba 
-slp -static -xinetd -zeroconf"
[ebuild   R   ] net-print/hplip-3.9.12-r1  USE="hpcups hpijs libnotify -
doc -fax -gtk -minimal -new-hpcups -parport -policykit -qt4 -scanner -
snmp -static-ppds -udev-acl" 0 kB

-- 
Rgds
Peter.