From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NrJS2-00023V-Ld for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:11:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3D21E0BFD for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:11:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sentinel.math.Princeton.EDU (sentinel.math.Princeton.EDU [128.112.16.31]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EEEE0A63 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from math.princeton.edu ([128.112.18.16]) by sentinel.math.Princeton.EDU with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NrIYB-0003ko-AZ for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:14:16 -0400 Received: from math.Princeton.EDU (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by math.Princeton.EDU (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2FMEFMI009792 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:14:15 -0400 Received: (from wwong@localhost) by math.Princeton.EDU (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id o2FMEFsN009789 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:14:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:14:15 -0400 From: Willie Wong To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] what's wrong with rsync 3.0.6? Message-ID: <20100315221415.GA8903@math.princeton.edu> References: <20100315170806.3060c1ae@karnak.local> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100315170806.3060c1ae@karnak.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Archives-Salt: b9a2cd6a-7ecb-49e9-9651-7adb6bba655c X-Archives-Hash: 0719a5fdb174161d11f3a18d1a7c3047 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 05:08:06PM +0000, David W Noon wrote: > On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:00:02 +0100, Willie Wong wrote about Re: > [gentoo-user] what's wrong with rsync 3.0.6?: > > >On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 02:15:08PM +0000, David W Noon wrote: > >> You run your emerge --sync jobs by hand?!!! > > > >Why is that surprising? > > Because emerge jobs produce copious amounts of output that is difficult > to read as it scrolls past. I much prefer the cron daemon or at daemon > to send me the output as email, so I can scroll backwards and forwards > through it at my leisure. What output do you actually read from syncs? For builds, is it really wise to do all updates unattended? Also, for builds, there is such a thing as elogs (which allows you to save all messages to /var/log/portage for ease of reading at your leisure. You can even configure it to select what types of messages are saved): I neither need nor want to scroll through pages and pages of mostly useless output only to find the ewarn messages. I'm sure you have a good reason for wanting to do things your way, and I do not claim mine is better. I am just surprised that you sounded surprised to find out some people don't do things your way. > >My laptop does not have an always-on internet > >connection, nevermind it sits silently and off for most of the day. I > >"sync by hand" when I have time, roughly twice each week. > > Well, when your laptop is powered off the cron daemon won't run the > emerge jobs, so that's really a non-issue. Actually, the cron daemon won't run because I don't have a cron daemon installed on the laptop. And I don't have a cron daemon because having periodic jobs only make sense if the computer is likely to be on when cron is triggered. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong wwong@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton