From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nqw8i-0003jz-Bs for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:18:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18DC3E096A; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from matrix.inten.pl (matrix.inten.pl [91.200.187.34]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE9CE096A for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [91.200.187.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by matrix.inten.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ADB9FA1D871 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:17:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:17:38 +0100 From: Kacper =?UTF-8?B?S29wY3p5xYRza2k=?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Compiz effects vs kwin Message-ID: <20100314231738.746205c9@matrix.inten.pl> In-Reply-To: References: <4B9C3376.60004@gmail.com> <4B9C5084.5000501@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 87cd8e37-2a26-4563-b07f-feb38452b12b X-Archives-Hash: 2c781e00ae9905291645755ab4f116eb Dnia 2010-03-14, o godz. 05:34:04 Nikos Chantziaras napisa=C5=82(a): > On 03/14/2010 04:57 AM, ubiquitous1980 wrote: > > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 03/14/2010 02:53 AM, ubiquitous1980 wrote: > >>> The effects in kwin (such as window wobble) are vastly less > >>> smooth than that in compiz. I have noticed that compiz is faster > >>> in both kde4 and in gnome (with slight preference to gnome in > >>> speed) and wondering if this is normal, or something to do with > >>> my kwin setup. Running on GM 965 > >> > >> kwin got crappy animation speed in KDE 4.4. It was as smooth as > >> compiz in 4.3. I asked about it in the KDE mailing list, but there > >> was zero interest in this regression. So you either have to live > >> with it, or switch to compiz. > >> > >> > > Thanks for your reply. I am currently using kde 4.3 because I try > > only to update to downstream-stable. Is there another explanation? >=20 > Too old drivers and X maybe. Since you're using downstream-stable, > but the cool DRM/GL/KMS stuff is only in the latest upstream > versions, this might be the problem. >=20 >=20 kwin is slower on intel cards. Kwin with gnome or xfce is much faster... Intel video cards are very slow... =46rom my experience every version of kde above 3.0 is slower than any other window manager (gnome (sawfish, metacity, enlightenment), xfce(xfwm), compiz, lxde,...), on every machine I've had. It needs more memory, faster hard disks, stable filesystem (ext4::delalloc?), better video card... and so on. Even Qt seems to be slower than GTK+ if you launch application that does similar thing. ...or it's just my imagination :) If you want smooth kde get a nvidia or ati card, at least 256MB, 2GB ram, 1.6GHz. You could also try nice/renice --=20 Kacper Kopczy=C5=84ski