From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NpMdY-0001Vk-BY for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:11:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E26F3E0D35; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f215.google.com (mail-ew0-f215.google.com [209.85.219.215]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A99E0D35 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so49706ewy.29 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:10:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=CngSf5y5y7jhk0yT/p/vxnECvqmXQGq2A6nXXdnN6W0=; b=LyEXE2Hg1UjSWp/83xCsEzlP7o+Xe1IJkERQ3ayiHjvKnGg/SDyCtAUN+TlT82oXB2 iRA5wZ3qESSUj68E7nOHLbkfjr6GX0UBa4Zxg0m8LmX/3ugoGNKPIErzI/io3zjkkygz ru4s/EUf4Ea+PpMJivBKF2SeXvEJcevlaGo1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=rDeG8jUjKLLxlfUfcfG8g3QjzbXO2eS93v4UkFXn4/yJJ47OAo4lpIreKmy8MFHlkg wrJnIgl4RNAjyn1vJfuSopZgvcjtm2tS2x9yCr9Ue3wkLiawd0tlC1r5gLp2TcONqEMY zci/5CUJhLrxyWc4C9yaBHG/gyfCtsZiUdX2Y= Received: by 10.213.100.210 with SMTP id z18mr933624ebn.65.1268230205079; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-215-2-122.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.215.2.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm3871894ewy.10.2010.03.10.06.10.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:10:04 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "make oldconfig" 2.6.30-8 ==> 2.6.31 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:07:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.1 (Linux/2.6.32-zen6; KDE/4.4.1; x86_64; ; ) References: <20100310013650.GA6034@waltdnes.org> <4B97A0C3.7050206@gmail.com> <4B97A29B.7090707@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: <4B97A29B.7090707@libertytrek.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003101607.16364.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 027f8400-4a09-44c4-911f-b2782b34b23d X-Archives-Hash: 0514a081829bda7bfaea9686e67bc431 On Wednesday 10 March 2010 15:46:03 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2010-03-10 8:38 AM, Dale wrote: > > I use make oldconfig all the time and have only had problems with it > > once. I would trust make oldconfig looong before I would even think to > > trust genkernel. I have never got it to work for me. > > > > Using make oldconfig should be fine for the OP. > > My point is, the recommended method per the official gentoo docs/kernel > upgrade guide is Let me correct you on your misunderstanding: The current opinion of the current author of the kernel upgrade guide says what you quoted. It's his opinion, it's what he thinks will work best for the majority of people. It's probably also the wording that has been proven to result in the least bugzilla entries and the fewest mails in his inbox from the "Help me!" mob. It's not a technical data sheet, and what you quote is not a fact > , using make oldconfig is only recommended for minor > bumps of the same kernel version, and for major updates - and again, > yes, even going from 2.6.30 to 2.6.31 is a 'major' update, copying the > old .config then doing make menuconfig is the preferred/recommended way. > > If you want to live dangerously, that is fine, but please do not ignore > the fact that it is *not* the *recommended/preferred* - ie *safest* - way. Wrong. See above. How do I know this? I too write technical docs. I too write them to minimize the size of my inbox. Do you think for a minute I actually *follow* the advice of give to others less knowledgeable than myself? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com