[gentoo-user] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[gentoo-user] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[Mick]

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I first tried radeonhd, but Xorg.0.log complained that it couldn't find the 
ati module, so I added radeon in VIDEO_CARDS and it now comes up with this 
error:
===========================================
(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so failed 
(/usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
directory)
(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
===========================================

Have you seen this before?  Any idea what I should tweak now to get this 
going?
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Samstag 06 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> I first tried radeonhd, but Xorg.0.log complained that it couldn't find the
> ati module, so I added radeon in VIDEO_CARDS and it now comes up with this
> error:
> ===========================================
> (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so failed
> (/usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file
> or directory)
> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
> ===========================================
> 
> Have you seen this before?  Any idea what I should tweak now to get this
> going?

mesa. You need to install mesa with the right flags.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[Mick]

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On Saturday 06 March 2010 16:08:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Samstag 06 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> > I first tried radeonhd, but Xorg.0.log complained that it couldn't find
> > the ati module, so I added radeon in VIDEO_CARDS and it now comes up with
> > this error:
> > ===========================================
> > (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so failed
> > (/usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file
> > or directory)
> > (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
> > ===========================================
> >
> > Have you seen this before?  Any idea what I should tweak now to get this
> > going?
> 
> mesa. You need to install mesa with the right flags.

Thanks Volker,

I had installed mesa with the radeon flag already, but now I just 
unmasked/updated it to 2.4.8 and the above error is gone!

However, still no X.  :-(

I have also added mouse and synaptics, after initially trying with only evdev 
in my INPUT_DEVICES.  So now it looks like this:

INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse synaptics evdev"

When I added synaptics I got an error about RECORD being disabled because it 
is broken.  I attach my logs in case there is something in there showing why 
this is not working and I can't see it.

I can't explain why both Knoppix and Sysrescue CDs work fine and my Gentoo 
build does not.  I even used their xorg.conf as a guide and still no joy.  I 
noticed this message (with no xorg.conf):
========================================
(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
	If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AutoAddDevices.
========================================
but I am not sure how I can reconfigure HAL.

Any suggestions before I rip all this out and have a go at the ATI proprietary 
drivers is most welcome.
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Samstag 06 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 06 March 2010 16:08:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Samstag 06 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> > > I first tried radeonhd, but Xorg.0.log complained that it couldn't find
> > > the ati module, so I added radeon in VIDEO_CARDS and it now comes up
> > > with this error:
> > > ===========================================
> > > (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so failed
> > > (/usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such
> > > file or directory)
> > > (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
> > > ===========================================
> > > 
> > > Have you seen this before?  Any idea what I should tweak now to get
> > > this going?
> > 
> > mesa. You need to install mesa with the right flags.
> 
> Thanks Volker,
> 
> I had installed mesa with the radeon flag already, but now I just
> unmasked/updated it to 2.4.8 and the above error is gone!
> 
> However, still no X.  :-(
> 
> I have also added mouse and synaptics, after initially trying with only
> evdev in my INPUT_DEVICES.  So now it looks like this:
> 
> INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse synaptics evdev"
> 
> When I added synaptics I got an error about RECORD being disabled because
> it is broken.  I attach my logs in case there is something in there
> showing why this is not working and I can't see it.

RECORD does not matter.

> 
> I can't explain why both Knoppix and Sysrescue CDs work fine and my Gentoo
> build does not.  I even used their xorg.conf as a guide and still no joy. 
> I noticed this message (with no xorg.conf):

yeah. please create a xorg.conf. Depending on hal is nice and dandy in theory. 
But so does not work for many people.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[Mick]

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On Saturday 06 March 2010 18:43:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Samstag 06 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> > On Saturday 06 March 2010 16:08:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > > On Samstag 06 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> > > > I first tried radeonhd, but Xorg.0.log complained that it couldn't
> > > > find the ati module, so I added radeon in VIDEO_CARDS and it now
> > > > comes up with this error:
> > > > ===========================================
> > > > (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so failed
> > > > (/usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such
> > > > file or directory)
> > > > (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
> > > > ===========================================
> > > >
> > > > Have you seen this before?  Any idea what I should tweak now to get
> > > > this going?
> > >
> > > mesa. You need to install mesa with the right flags.
> >
> > Thanks Volker,
> >
> > I had installed mesa with the radeon flag already, but now I just
> > unmasked/updated it to 2.4.8 and the above error is gone!
> >
> > However, still no X.  :-(
> >
> > I have also added mouse and synaptics, after initially trying with only
> > evdev in my INPUT_DEVICES.  So now it looks like this:
> >
> > INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse synaptics evdev"
> >
> > When I added synaptics I got an error about RECORD being disabled because
> > it is broken.  I attach my logs in case there is something in there
> > showing why this is not working and I can't see it.
> 
> RECORD does not matter.
> 
> > I can't explain why both Knoppix and Sysrescue CDs work fine and my
> > Gentoo build does not.  I even used their xorg.conf as a guide and still
> > no joy. I noticed this message (with no xorg.conf):
> 
> yeah. please create a xorg.conf. Depending on hal is nice and dandy in
>  theory. But so does not work for many people.

Hmm, can't make it work after multiple attempts of creating and editing a 
xorg.conf.  I think that the problem is with the drivers and perhaps the 
versions of xorg-server and or mesa.  I am using the latest testing of 
everything and unmasked any dependencies that they had.

Tomorrow I will have a go at the fglrx.  This is doing my head in ...
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Sonntag 07 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 06 March 2010 18:43:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Samstag 06 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> > > On Saturday 06 March 2010 16:08:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > > > On Samstag 06 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> > > > > I first tried radeonhd, but Xorg.0.log complained that it couldn't
> > > > > find the ati module, so I added radeon in VIDEO_CARDS and it now
> > > > > comes up with this error:
> > > > > ===========================================
> > > > > (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so failed
> > > > > (/usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No
> > > > > such file or directory)
> > > > > (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
> > > > > ===========================================
> > > > > 
> > > > > Have you seen this before?  Any idea what I should tweak now to get
> > > > > this going?
> > > > 
> > > > mesa. You need to install mesa with the right flags.
> > > 
> > > Thanks Volker,
> > > 
> > > I had installed mesa with the radeon flag already, but now I just
> > > unmasked/updated it to 2.4.8 and the above error is gone!
> > > 
> > > However, still no X.  :-(
> > > 
> > > I have also added mouse and synaptics, after initially trying with only
> > > evdev in my INPUT_DEVICES.  So now it looks like this:
> > > 
> > > INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse synaptics evdev"
> > > 
> > > When I added synaptics I got an error about RECORD being disabled
> > > because it is broken.  I attach my logs in case there is something in
> > > there showing why this is not working and I can't see it.
> > 
> > RECORD does not matter.
> > 
> > > I can't explain why both Knoppix and Sysrescue CDs work fine and my
> > > Gentoo build does not.  I even used their xorg.conf as a guide and
> > > still
> > 
> > > no joy. I noticed this message (with no xorg.conf):
> > yeah. please create a xorg.conf. Depending on hal is nice and dandy in
> > 
> >  theory. But so does not work for many people.
> 
> Hmm, can't make it work after multiple attempts of creating and editing a
> xorg.conf.  I think that the problem is with the drivers and perhaps the
> versions of xorg-server and or mesa.  I am using the latest testing of
> everything and unmasked any dependencies that they had.
> 
> Tomorrow I will have a go at the fglrx.  This is doing my head in ...

fglrx won't have any influence on your INPUT DRIVER based problem. After 
emerging the latest xorg-server, did you rebuilt the input drivers?

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[Dale]

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Sonntag 07 März 2010, Mick wrote:
>    
>> On Saturday 06 March 2010 18:43:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>      
>>> On Samstag 06 März 2010, Mick wrote:
>>>        
>>>> On Saturday 06 March 2010 16:08:05 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> On Samstag 06 März 2010, Mick wrote:
>>>>>            
>>>>>> I first tried radeonhd, but Xorg.0.log complained that it couldn't
>>>>>> find the ati module, so I added radeon in VIDEO_CARDS and it now
>>>>>> comes up with this error:
>>>>>> ===========================================
>>>>>> (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so failed
>>>>>> (/usr/lib64/dri/r600_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No
>>>>>> such file or directory)
>>>>>> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
>>>>>> ===========================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you seen this before?  Any idea what I should tweak now to get
>>>>>> this going?
>>>>>>              
>>>>> mesa. You need to install mesa with the right flags.
>>>>>            
>>>> Thanks Volker,
>>>>
>>>> I had installed mesa with the radeon flag already, but now I just
>>>> unmasked/updated it to 2.4.8 and the above error is gone!
>>>>
>>>> However, still no X.  :-(
>>>>
>>>> I have also added mouse and synaptics, after initially trying with only
>>>> evdev in my INPUT_DEVICES.  So now it looks like this:
>>>>
>>>> INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse synaptics evdev"
>>>>
>>>> When I added synaptics I got an error about RECORD being disabled
>>>> because it is broken.  I attach my logs in case there is something in
>>>> there showing why this is not working and I can't see it.
>>>>          
>>> RECORD does not matter.
>>>
>>>        
>>>> I can't explain why both Knoppix and Sysrescue CDs work fine and my
>>>> Gentoo build does not.  I even used their xorg.conf as a guide and
>>>> still
>>>>          
>>>        
>>>> no joy. I noticed this message (with no xorg.conf):
>>>>          
>>> yeah. please create a xorg.conf. Depending on hal is nice and dandy in
>>>
>>>   theory. But so does not work for many people.
>>>        
>> Hmm, can't make it work after multiple attempts of creating and editing a
>> xorg.conf.  I think that the problem is with the drivers and perhaps the
>> versions of xorg-server and or mesa.  I am using the latest testing of
>> everything and unmasked any dependencies that they had.
>>
>> Tomorrow I will have a go at the fglrx.  This is doing my head in ...
>>      
> fglrx won't have any influence on your INPUT DRIVER based problem. After
> emerging the latest xorg-server, did you rebuilt the input drivers?
>
>    

If you did, you may want to disable hal and try it without it.  Just put 
it in package.use or something, recompile xorg and see if it works.  If 
it does, it's hal.  If it doesn't, then you got a problem with something 
else.  The reason I would try this is to see what is the problem.  If it 
is hal, people can try to help you get it going if you want to.  If it 
is not hal, then people will now that it is not the problem and can help 
you try something else.

Dale

:-)  :-)

P. S.  You should only need to disable hal on xorg.  You can leave it 
elsewhere.  That is why I mentioned doing it in package.use instead of 
make.conf.  You could do it on the command line to, just for testing.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[Mick]

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On Sunday 07 March 2010 02:21:39 Dale wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Sonntag 07 März 2010, Mick wrote:

> >> Tomorrow I will have a go at the fglrx.  This is doing my head in ...
> >
> > fglrx won't have any influence on your INPUT DRIVER based problem. After
> > emerging the latest xorg-server, did you rebuilt the input drivers?

Yes (I have rebuilt everything so many times I have lost count).

> If you did, you may want to disable hal and try it without it. 

I've recompiled xorg-server-1.7.5 without HAL and also the synaptics driver.  
For good measure I rebuilt all xf76-input and video drivers (although they 
were not affected by hal).

It doesn't work, with or without HAL.

I attach the latest xorg.conf and the Xorg.0.log.  Comparing with Knoppix 
which works nicely, I see that in my logs the lines:
==========================================
(II) LoadModule: "ati"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so
(II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
		compiled for 1.7.4, module version = 6.12.4
		Module class: X.Org Video Driver
		ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
==========================================

just before load module "radeon" are absent.  Could this have something to do 
with it?  Knoppix is running 32bit kernel.

Also, I noticed that Knoppix picks up additional devices (webcam, etc) under 
KEYBOARD.  Not sure if this relevant, but mine seems to bail out after it 
detects the Keyboard.
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Sonntag 07 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 March 2010 02:21:39 Dale wrote:
> > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > > On Sonntag 07 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> > >> Tomorrow I will have a go at the fglrx.  This is doing my head in ...
> > > 
> > > fglrx won't have any influence on your INPUT DRIVER based problem.
> > > After emerging the latest xorg-server, did you rebuilt the input
> > > drivers?
> 
> Yes (I have rebuilt everything so many times I have lost count).
> 
> > If you did, you may want to disable hal and try it without it.
> 
> I've recompiled xorg-server-1.7.5 without HAL and also the synaptics
> driver. For good measure I rebuilt all xf76-input and video drivers
> (although they were not affected by hal).
> 
> It doesn't work, with or without HAL.
> 
> I attach the latest xorg.conf and the Xorg.0.log.  Comparing with Knoppix
> which works nicely, I see that in my logs the lines:
> ==========================================
> (II) LoadModule: "ati"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so
> (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> 		compiled for 1.7.4, module version = 6.12.4
> 		Module class: X.Org Video Driver
> 		ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
> ==========================================
> 
> just before load module "radeon" are absent.  Could this have something to
> do with it?  Knoppix is running 32bit kernel.
> 
> Also, I noticed that Knoppix picks up additional devices (webcam, etc)
> under KEYBOARD.  Not sure if this relevant, but mine seems to bail out
> after it detects the Keyboard.

please post your xorg.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[Mick]

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On Sunday 07 March 2010 11:09:22 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Sonntag 07 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 March 2010 02:21:39 Dale wrote:
> > > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > > > On Sonntag 07 März 2010, Mick wrote:
> > > >> Tomorrow I will have a go at the fglrx.  This is doing my head in
> > > >> ...
> > > >
> > > > fglrx won't have any influence on your INPUT DRIVER based problem.
> > > > After emerging the latest xorg-server, did you rebuilt the input
> > > > drivers?
> >
> > Yes (I have rebuilt everything so many times I have lost count).
> >
> > > If you did, you may want to disable hal and try it without it.
> >
> > I've recompiled xorg-server-1.7.5 without HAL and also the synaptics
> > driver. For good measure I rebuilt all xf76-input and video drivers
> > (although they were not affected by hal).
> >
> > It doesn't work, with or without HAL.
> >
> > I attach the latest xorg.conf and the Xorg.0.log.  Comparing with Knoppix
> > which works nicely, I see that in my logs the lines:
> > ==========================================
> > (II) LoadModule: "ati"
> > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so
> > (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> > 		compiled for 1.7.4, module version = 6.12.4
> > 		Module class: X.Org Video Driver
> > 		ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
> > ==========================================
> >
> > just before load module "radeon" are absent.  Could this have something
> > to do with it?  Knoppix is running 32bit kernel.
> >
> > Also, I noticed that Knoppix picks up additional devices (webcam, etc)
> > under KEYBOARD.  Not sure if this relevant, but mine seems to bail out
> > after it detects the Keyboard.
> 
> please post your xorg.conf

I already did, but just in case, here is my latest effort, along with the 
Xorg.0.log.  I am not (yet) convinced that this is a HAL problem.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] [almost SOLVED] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[Mick]

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On Sunday 07 March 2010 15:59:10 you wrote:


> I already did, but just in case, here is my latest effort, along with the
> Xorg.0.log.  I am not (yet) convinced that this is a HAL problem.

Good news!  I seem to have solved it somehow ... it started showing up after I 
configured the framebuffer for the VTs.  Could this be related?  Is it now 
using the fb to render X, or the radeon driver?  How can I tell?  (glxgears is 
4 times slower than in Knoppix)
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[Dale]

Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 March 2010 11:09:22 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>    
>> On Sonntag 07 März 2010, Mick wrote:
>>      
>>> On Sunday 07 March 2010 02:21:39 Dale wrote:
>>>        
>>>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> On Sonntag 07 März 2010, Mick wrote:
>>>>>            
>>>>>> Tomorrow I will have a go at the fglrx.  This is doing my head in
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>              
>>>>> fglrx won't have any influence on your INPUT DRIVER based problem.
>>>>> After emerging the latest xorg-server, did you rebuilt the input
>>>>> drivers?
>>>>>            
>>> Yes (I have rebuilt everything so many times I have lost count).
>>>
>>>        
>>>> If you did, you may want to disable hal and try it without it.
>>>>          
>>> I've recompiled xorg-server-1.7.5 without HAL and also the synaptics
>>> driver. For good measure I rebuilt all xf76-input and video drivers
>>> (although they were not affected by hal).
>>>
>>> It doesn't work, with or without HAL.
>>>
>>> I attach the latest xorg.conf and the Xorg.0.log.  Comparing with Knoppix
>>> which works nicely, I see that in my logs the lines:
>>> ==========================================
>>> (II) LoadModule: "ati"
>>> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so
>>> (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>>> 		compiled for 1.7.4, module version = 6.12.4
>>> 		Module class: X.Org Video Driver
>>> 		ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
>>> ==========================================
>>>
>>> just before load module "radeon" are absent.  Could this have something
>>> to do with it?  Knoppix is running 32bit kernel.
>>>
>>> Also, I noticed that Knoppix picks up additional devices (webcam, etc)
>>> under KEYBOARD.  Not sure if this relevant, but mine seems to bail out
>>> after it detects the Keyboard.
>>>        
>> please post your xorg.conf
>>      
> I already did, but just in case, here is my latest effort, along with the
> Xorg.0.log.  I am not (yet) convinced that this is a HAL problem.
>    

If you disabled hal and it didn't work, it most likely isn't hal.  I 
couldn't get hal to work but as soon as I disabled hal and recompiled 
xorg, everything worked fine.  That is my thinking at least.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] [almost SOLVED] Can't get Xorg going on Radeon HD R730 4670

[pk]

On 2010-03-07 18:53, Mick wrote:

> Good news!  I seem to have solved it somehow ... it started showing up after I 
> configured the framebuffer for the VTs.  Could this be related?  Is it now 
> using the fb to render X, or the radeon driver?  How can I tell?  (glxgears is 
> 4 times slower than in Knoppix)

If you are using the framebuffer then X is not using the graphic cards
hardware to move things about; it's the CPU that will have to do the
transformations etc. Hence it's slow(er).

I am not up to speed when it comes to the open source drivers
(radeon/radeonhd) or their status as gentoo packages but you need proper
kernel support for them to work (drm-module) and matching support in
libdrm, mesa and the X server for 3D to work (DRI). How to setup is
explained here (disclaimer: I don't know how up-to-date this is):
http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd%3Aexperimental_3D
and
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RadeonHD

If that doesn't work for you I would recommend using the proprietary
driver (fglrx):

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml

(emerge ati-drivers etc...)

HTH

Best regards

Peter K