From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NmxQ4-000624-Tf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:51:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38DE8E0AAF; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw0-f53.google.com (mail-gw0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C6CE0AAF for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj19 with SMTP id 19so827147gwj.40 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:51:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=2NJMP+71KPp2SK8Cxdbzr9I0kUAsJ7EjbzahnoAb2DI=; b=hafp3K1UO8gw+i9dm9qiBsJE2yR5hOpEOV1y9/PFADnnjG7+CM24COEC4SRt9bBIVU ACTZlKkI1NaggV4VsFCQgR1ImaFB9q55uFIy2QM3qvwSgtRZy6LJsFCQOKeZValt6Ax7 TiO1w1iLcB9m71/u19QxPt6nuKERfo/Q0BnPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=b5/eyh3Gvw/TBoaqrVig0uYKTjpcRUe5HTQPjfcSWRAGfdvXU/dYKEGZK9/8byEZI5 3FM+t+ahValJuH4vzJgU4kPJ32/UinHCzhpdZOQkqnW4GOqzYwASLqRiDUxmev6ftshP 5LolbRMdi2/1F6hCvWoOwcaQ85ZfKzLMerL/w= Received: by 10.100.24.40 with SMTP id 40mr3391076anx.56.1267656675613; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lappy.localnet (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cx9sm411336ibb.19.2010.03.03.14.51.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:51:14 -0800 (PST) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Advice for 64-bit n00b? Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:50:58 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (Linux/2.6.31-gentoo-r10; KDE/4.3.5; i686; ; ) References: <008DDC13-5883-4155-A996-64325EFCAA77@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <0E02BFD1-8446-460C-A620-1C2AE57D33A4@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <201003032204.17232.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201003032204.17232.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1429294.YTVeZI9vEY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003032251.10918.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: a9f67693-42de-43e2-a906-46e8484aea65 X-Archives-Hash: 959ee0ffc29be82b8d0bb5b7bc9016e2 --nextPart1429294.YTVeZI9vEY Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday 03 March 2010 20:04:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 03 March 2010 19:04:45 Stroller wrote: > > On 3 Mar 2010, at 15:29, Stroller wrote: > > > ... > > > I have started following the Gentoo Linux AMD64 Handbook, because > > > the Quick Install Guide is described as "x86". Having untarred the > > > stage I am surprised to find a lib32 directory. I thought > > > compatibility with 32-bit binaries was optional. Or am I > > > misunderstanding? This is going to be a headless server & I can't > > > think that it'll need any binary packages - possibly the management > > > utility for the RAID controller will be distributed as a binary, I'm > > > not sure yet (the hardware RAID key was missing when I got this > > > machine =E2=98=B9) > > > > Further to Alan's reply, I've proceeded a little further. > > > > I'm onto section 2.3: Changing profiles, where it says: > > "If you want to have a pure 64-bit environment, with no 32-bit > > applications or libraries, you should use a non-multilib profile." > > > > See my comments in the quoted above. It shouldn't be too expensive to > > enable the RAID in this machine (which is on the mainboard, but > > requires a little hardware PCB "key" to be fitted). That's a Dell > > PERC4, which AFAICT is a rebadged LSI megaraid. > > > > This post [1] http://tinyurl.com/3dzcl9 referrs to the management > > utility thus: "MegaCLI comes as a RPM containing only a single > > statically linked 32-bit Linux binary", however `eix mega` suggests > > there may be alternatives, such as `megactl` [2] > > > > My immediate thought when reading the handbook was that it's "best" > > and "cleanest" and "more right" to only have 64-bit libraries on a 64- > > bit system, but this need for the RAID management utility is making me > > wonder if that would be cutting off my nose to spite my face. >=20 > It has a single statically linked binary. Which probably means it already > contains everything you will need and will run just fine. No need to build > everything multilib; if you do need a 32bit lib, just install the > appropriate emul-x86-linux package. So how 'safe' is it these days to build a 64bit only system? Would you end= up=20 having to rebuild with multilibs because many apps which won't work on a pu= re=20 64bit build? =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart1429294.YTVeZI9vEY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkuO594ACgkQVTDTR3kpaLY+DACg9CJSU0teA5XNMDvYBBPgm8Si kIsAoJdGkvA9Fr7gkH9cH89Bppq2/aTt =CFWp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1429294.YTVeZI9vEY--