From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nmro1-0002mN-0Z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:52:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26BD9E0BA6; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF99DE0B6E for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so1240780ewy.26 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:52:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=afxipxE3w1y2f00uy34YKVpT68v8jRiLksgRUKrH6oQ=; b=VmxlZlEoXJkAXDhS4unnCXJzwPQHRfygLqAxo0U70TPcW97BmEOF9akKygoTXoJSDh iOQK6aEXJKf4epXkAeeSRFtMQDaURHh3oy5PiBdI2ToIoOekAORo8w953wgTas2lUeoL w9SGgNcgUC+6LJmE4S7yrgtWwVNmlvJRltox0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=PgeZAvFTtVsdM5nHfbch+V2UaDNUPaijqxZ1zpdoGwDkNljO21blkCOeAzk6lj5Wge 1BO/xRhAHhLIviFA3dEr5dy5tweHa6KaOvf8k/SO8ib1Xwqr3jFzCyUTuR2gGKSYO4Z4 DURwVm7mlgWix2RFNuZG/JI4Bq5L4ciKX10tQ= Received: by 10.213.109.68 with SMTP id i4mr5801761ebp.43.1267635128242; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:52:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-238-8.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.238.8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm7413493eyd.44.2010.03.03.08.52.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:52:07 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here! Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 18:49:31 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.0 (Linux/2.6.32-zen6; KDE/4.4.0; x86_64; ; ) References: <9acccfe51002231827q26e94e64s7f29ec46b6675156@mail.gmail.com> <201003012030.27972.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <201003031227.46989.wonko@wonkology.org> In-Reply-To: <201003031227.46989.wonko@wonkology.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003031849.31718.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: bb09e1df-6c42-4335-9116-1bd7b869fa03 X-Archives-Hash: a405a52ebd1abae2ac77722c69568301 On Wednesday 03 March 2010 13:27:45 Alex Schuster wrote: > > On Monday 01 March 2010 18:08:05 Alex Schuster wrote: > > > On the other hand, from time to time I have show-stoppers, and then I > > > cannot use kmail, or no KDE4 at all. And have to invest time to solve > > > this. And there are these annoying things. Like Amarok being very > > > unstable, and taking 5 minutes to start. What the heck is it doing in > > > this time? > > > > > > > > Fuck knows what amarok-2x does for the first 5 minutes. I think On my > > system it scans the music directory, presumably to find updates that > > happened when amarok was not running. Fair enough, can't argue that, > > but why is it so *slow*??? > > Yes, it scans the collection, I just verified that by removing a folder > from my collection. Start-up takes 7 minutes, I guess this also slows down > my KDE4 start-up even further (strigi also scans some stuff for about a > minute, along this music files I did not touch in any way). So when I save > my KDE session I have to remember to quit amarok before that. Of course, I > also have to remember to start amarok some time after I logged in, so I > can play music when I want without having to wait 7 minutes first. > > This does not feel right... > > BTW, a find /data/mp3 -type d takes about a minute. Checking the date of > the directories to verify they did not alter since the last scan should > not take that much longer. > > Ah, I see the problem. It mainly scans /data/mp3/incoming, a directory I > have NOT selected as collection folder (but most other directories in > /data/mp3 are selected). Still, those files do not show up in my > collection, which is fine - some time ago amarok did index all in > /data/mp3, even if a directory was not selected. I wonder if amarok would not be better off using the strigi/nepomuk indexing function, instead of trying to be real clever and doing it itself. OTOH, that might just resurrect the mother of all threads we had recently - the one about the pros and cons of nepomuk and semantic-desktop :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com