From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NmrX1-00010o-13 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:34:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7A89E0B2E; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.askja.de (mail.askja.de [83.137.103.136]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980DEE0B2E for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from static-87-79-89-40.netcologne.de ([87.79.89.40] helo=zone.wonkology.org) by mail.askja.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmrWu-0001DC-2j for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:34:36 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by zone.wonkology.org with local; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:34:35 +0100 id 00011B87.4B8E8F9B.00007623 From: Alex Schuster To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Advice/best practices for a new Gentoo installation Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:34:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.0 (Linux/2.6.32-tuxonice-r5; KDE/4.4.0; i686; ; ) References: <58965d8a1002260954v37bc6293xd4b92d82183bd346@mail.gmail.com> <201003031253.02814.wonko@wonkology.org> <20100303122736.GA2748@math.princeton.edu> In-Reply-To: <20100303122736.GA2748@math.princeton.edu> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003031734.35024.wonko@wonkology.org> X-Archives-Salt: 7fe3d3c8-1592-4600-98d4-fe850f1d6338 X-Archives-Hash: 0c24a1d897bae148658e5ab679e15d09 Willie Wong writes: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 12:52:55PM +0100, Alex Schuster wrote: > > I thought the small files of the portage tree especially profit from > > the notail option in reiserfs? Did you change the block size? > > You mean the other way around, right? Oh dear. Yes. Thanks. > reiser defaults to tail-packing, > which can cause problems with GRUB and LILO, which is why notail is an > option which turns off tail-packing for those crazy enough to use > reiser on /boot. > > If you use notail on the portage tree, you get rid of that advantage, > then Neil is absolutely correct: there's not too much point in > journaling the portage tree, and if you actively make reiser > not-competitive on the storage-space direction, the only metric left > to compare is speed, and ext2 is faster. > > Incidentally, if you are willing to sacrifice speed for space, then a > sparsefile for /usr/portage may also be an option. I had this once on a smaller machine, but now I'd prefer it the other way around, there's plenty of space available. I have 15G for distfiles and pkgdir, so I don't worry about some 100MB for the portage tree. Wonko