From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NmAQf-0001T2-0g for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:33:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4862CE0A0B; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B33AE0A0B for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so1948474ewy.26 for ; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:33:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=3ULnDAsufQ4CREPqNL7fi+0kCshOQqihdbHt7OI/Y3Y=; b=FJiUt1ZWvUHARn7LNCe9VcTVYnUlnAinyRwLpiFJrSw+UxRc3R5r4gZfmehlarUpXw QwaSKTjEHu4LzVlEj1XCzfJZd09gyE8M8p/Y6vWX0ZWr7cmFGMIKCz4TmXM4zuDQU8Oz ctJ67GIlp88BhxKZmjjOGypk3KIX8hELdF7Aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=TeMRki1yIys7p1bKAPuR4Yh9OsuBpn8Hp/GwFaplxErfrWWs5uZp2qY4XjiH1XBJXl t1/oXd8wHQ+uJtD2USkI+duhQqZYCuETReNSisejlkyl8eTK14V7r2h2PLVT6gBkcJmP UPzEPAscSCZXf2EikfVd6bgI/ym8j+ggFSzqw= Received: by 10.213.1.132 with SMTP id 4mr74357ebf.40.1267468380303; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:33:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-238-8.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.238.8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm2480773ewy.15.2010.03.01.10.32.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:32:59 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here! Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:30:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.0 (Linux/2.6.32-zen6; KDE/4.4.0; x86_64; ; ) References: <9acccfe51002231827q26e94e64s7f29ec46b6675156@mail.gmail.com> <201002250110.20777.wonko@wonkology.org> <201003011708.07141.wonko@wonkology.org> In-Reply-To: <201003011708.07141.wonko@wonkology.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003012030.27972.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: ba20cd5b-79c4-41be-9280-48a4f6b89db9 X-Archives-Hash: ee05a0b3aa8acdf47f608eb03e69db3a On Monday 01 March 2010 18:08:05 Alex Schuster wrote: > On the other hand, from time to time I have show-stoppers, and then I > cannot use kmail, or no KDE4 at all. And have to invest time to solve > this. And there are these annoying things. Like Amarok being very > unstable, and taking 5 minutes to start. What the heck is it doing in this > time? Fuck knows what amarok-2x does for the first 5 minutes. I *think* On my system it scans the music directory, presumably to find updates that happened when amarok was not running. Fair enough, can't argue that, but why is it so *slow*??? Fuck also knows what the amarok devs are doing in general. I still can't find a way to move stuff to an mp3 player like the old 1.4 version did. And the library thingamagij still doesn't always update tags, or put tag changes that it itself did into it's own database. It gladly accepts any changes you make in the Edit Tags dialog, and tries to write them, even if it knows it cannot do it (no support for that format, permissions, etc). Then, no warning or message about this. Depending on which bleeding edge latest-svn commit build you happen to get on any given day, this last might or might not tell you something in the status bar. For all the above reasons, and more, I have switched to clementine (it's in portage). It's a Qt port of amarok-1.4 and has equivalents of all the music- playing goodness that amarok used to have. It doesn't do tags, external players, wikipedia etc etc, it just plays music. And you have to tag your music by other means with eg kid3. I can live with that. At least it starts and stays up. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com