From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nl1qS-00062R-JV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:11:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72ACFE09D5; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.askja.de (mail.askja.de [83.137.103.136]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B49EE09D5 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from static-87-79-89-40.netcologne.de ([87.79.89.40] helo=zone.wonkology.org) by mail.askja.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nl1qF-0002En-K8 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:10:59 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by zone.wonkology.org with local; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:10:57 +0100 id 0001000C.4B87E481.000031FF From: Alex Schuster To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing KDE 3.5? Or reason to keep it around? Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:10:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.0 (Linux/2.6.31-tuxonice_k8; KDE/4.4.0; i686; ; ) References: <306987.3768.qm@web65411.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4B875E96.4040203@gmail.com> <332309.70376.qm@web65405.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <332309.70376.qm@web65405.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002261610.55394.wonko@wonkology.org> X-Archives-Salt: 6b22dc51-59aa-406f-a080-fc7b120c71b2 X-Archives-Hash: 4769efb6f118f00ad7b6244e9f73d387 BRM writes: > > > If you keep your world file (/var/lib/portage/world) tidy, simply > > > deleting all lines with KDE3 packages and running emerge -a -- > > > depclean will take care of it. > > > > > You *do* keep your world file tidy, don't you? :P > > > > That would be the easiest method. If you use the kde-meta package > > like I do, just remove the one for KDE 3 and let --depclean do its > > thing. It should get all of it. > > I actually don't touch the world file, and just do the 'emerge world > -vuDNa' for updates. From my POV, that is emerge/Portage's job - not > mine. I'd also leave the world file alone, and emerge -C the packages I want removed. > Aside from that, I'm not sure I have ever really run "emerge > --depclean", but I also rarely uninstall anything, but don't install > things left or right to try out either, so typically upgrades are all > I need to do. > > Having just done a compiler upgrade, I can say that there are roughly > 1100 packages (emerge -eav) in world that were recompiled. > > I was just contemplating - KDE4 is stable, and I don't see myself > running KDE3 again; so why keep it around. If 'emerge world -vuDNa' > will remove it when it gets pushed off the main trunk, then that's > probably fine with me - since that seems to not be very far out now. > If not, then I definitely want to remove it now as there is no other > reason for keeping it around. KDE3 is no longer in the portage tree, it's in the kde-sunset overlay. World updates do not remove things, you need to use emerge --depclean for this. It will probably want to remove a lot when you never depcleaned before, so be sure to check. Put the stuff you want to keep in your world file with emerge -n, then depclean the rest. I guess it will remove your whole KDE3 that is no longer in portage. If you like to keep it, add the kde-sunset overlay with laymanl, and maybe emerge kde-base/kde-meta:3.5. > That's the only issue. My only concern is software (e.g. KDevelop) that > may not have been updated to KDE4 yet. (Not a fan of KDevelop3; > waiting to see how KDevelop4 is going to shape up.) The KDE4 version is in the kde overlay, but I do not know if it is usable already. Wonko