From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NjYwj-0000eO-1u for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:07:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7946E0C4F for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BAFEE07B1 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so176211fge.10 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 05:56:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=zKEplAkCwJEesZT368/MWeLZgRuYvLt6aZRcrlHMAgA=; b=DodEsnMvZdfUCbIuDoeododBFdf1JEQSNzpZMTMd/G6xo9/WukXZLUipWqeZ9A19SE R5oQ8wOH/NSP8szmLAbHItxiN+6i3CEWkw76sp0uvhd9RBzEiAQrDhw3l4rn2ODPso0u IkbOH2aL/iGtARxkwBNHsEX0FJ0INBMGV21MQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=qDVeUWgEwmoqbwM3QLss2vicx5U1qSiqPVlTfiErDeKE0+cMHr0+jt7f5z/w7y15Oj eRMC0ZojWvaG5/VJ4Nj0dvBDSVUweh/Z3FLbOM7D+HCZvaw7s0UlQOnoKbJRFr6hogkp eE+3+D9j9lMs10RF7xSBX1WV+/0BixNekU+L0= Received: by 10.103.81.13 with SMTP id i13mr6491812mul.55.1266847015789; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 05:56:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from energy.localnet (ip-80-226-1-7.vodafone-net.de [80.226.1.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j10sm15706315muh.56.2010.02.22.05.56.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 22 Feb 2010 05:56:52 -0800 (PST) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system? Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:56:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.0 (Linux/2.6.31.12r4; KDE/4.4.0; x86_64; ; ) References: <20100212195529.GD1560@muc.de> <1266721977.3445.146.camel@localhost> <3ac129341002220329s37ee383akec3c559a9de7b0e6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3ac129341002220329s37ee383akec3c559a9de7b0e6@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002221456.45804.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 57f6c0ef-85f1-40cb-955e-446213f09c34 X-Archives-Hash: 5b1f3e528312eb89cab2c3699636f3e7 On Montag 22 Februar 2010, daid kahl wrote: > >> > > > On a more serious note, conf-update automatically merges trivial > >> > > > changes, so any configs you ran at the default, which is probably > >> > > > the majority, won't be flaged at all. > >> > > > >> > > so does cfg-update.... > >> > > >> > Every now and then, someone mentions cfg-update - usually you :) - and > >> > I give it another try, but I don't really get on with it and always > >> > go back to conf-update. There's nothing specific wrong with it, I > >> > just prefer (or am used to) conf-update. > >> > > >> > I expect that if I were still using etc-update or dispatch-conf I > >> > would welcome it with open arms though. > > Yay, thanks for the ideas. dispatch-conf was a welcome change from > etc-update, so this must be the next step. And just in time too, I > updated to ~x86 last week, and I left around the 11 config files that > need more than just hand waving to deal with (looks like important > changes, but I did modifications as well to those cases). > > >> You make me feel out of touch with Gentoo! Is dispatch-conf and > >> etc-update that bad then? > > > > out of touch would be rolling your own config update tool, like me ;) > > It hasn't changed much since I started using Gentoo... > > > > -- > > Iain Buchanan > > Sharing is caring! Can we try it? More importantly, would we want to? > > I'm wondering if some of these config manglers have configs > themselves, or some place to keep track of the configs I want like red > flagged to not get accidentially overwritten (sorry I didn't read the > man pages yet because I didn't get too screwed without), because I > want to keep track of the ones I edit other than some text file or my > memory "oh yeah, vim I hated the auto-line wrapping...where's that > backup from last week?" > > ~daid well, cfg-update keeps a backup. It detects manual edits and try to resolve conflicts resulting from that automatically. Which works surprisingly well. If it can not resolve them itself, it opens a diff app you set in its config - like kdiff3, sdiff, beediff... etc. You do your changes, save, quit, cfg-update does the rest - and next time remembers what you did.