* [gentoo-user] copy-paste no longer works with (g)vim + OpenOffice @ 2010-02-16 20:45 Philip Webb 2010-02-16 22:51 ` Willie Wong 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Philip Webb @ 2010-02-16 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw To: Gentoo User I have updated to the latest stable (G)vim 7.2.303 & suddenly can no longer copy+paste from Vim into Open Office: it doesn't work at all with Gvim & unpredictably with Vim in a Konsole. I can copy+paste from Most in a Konsole to Open Office as usual. This is on the Fluxbox desktop with Unicode & a generally reliable system. I've checked Gentoo bugs & forum, but there's no sign of the problem. Has anyone else seen this ? Would anyone care to test it ? Could anyone tell me what other pgms/pkgs are involved in copy+paste between different apps on a desktop ? Might it be Poppler ? -- ========================,,============================================ SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] copy-paste no longer works with (g)vim + OpenOffice 2010-02-16 20:45 [gentoo-user] copy-paste no longer works with (g)vim + OpenOffice Philip Webb @ 2010-02-16 22:51 ` Willie Wong 2010-02-17 11:42 ` Philip Webb 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Willie Wong @ 2010-02-16 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 03:45:30PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > I have updated to the latest stable (G)vim 7.2.303 > & suddenly can no longer copy+paste from Vim into Open Office: > it doesn't work at all with Gvim & unpredictably with Vim in a Konsole. > I can copy+paste from Most in a Konsole to Open Office as usual. > This is on the Fluxbox desktop with Unicode & a generally reliable system. > I've checked Gentoo bugs & forum, but there's no sign of the problem. Which copy+paste? The high-light with mouse and middle click to paste method, or some other one? Can you copy and paste from (g)vim to another Konsole? To any other application? What use-flag did you compile (g)vim with? > > Has anyone else seen this ? Would anyone care to test it ? > Could anyone tell me what other pgms/pkgs are involved in copy+paste > between different apps on a desktop ? Might it be Poppler ? Poppler? surely not. Why do you think a PDF renderer would have anything to do with copy and paste? W -- Willie W. Wong wwong@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] copy-paste no longer works with (g)vim + OpenOffice 2010-02-16 22:51 ` Willie Wong @ 2010-02-17 11:42 ` Philip Webb 2010-02-17 16:57 ` Willie Wong 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Philip Webb @ 2010-02-17 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user 100216 Willie Wong wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 03:45:30PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: >> I have updated to the latest stable (G)vim 7.2.303 >> & suddenly can no longer copy+paste from Vim into Open Office: >> it doesn't work at all with Gvim & unpredictably with Vim in a Konsole. >> I can copy+paste from Most in a Konsole to Open Office as usual. >> This is on the Fluxbox desktop with Unicode & a generally reliable system. > Which copy+paste? high-light with mouse and middle click to paste? Yes: are there other methods ? -- it also doesn't work if I high-light with 'v' & the (left-)arrow key(s). > Can you copy and paste from (g)vim to another Konsole? Yes, no problem. > To any other application? Yes, to Leafpad, Kwrite, (Xfce) Terminal & Xterm. > What use-flag did you compile (g)vim with? root:502 ~> eix gvim [I] app-editors/gvim Available versions: 7.0.235 ~7.0.243 7.1.123 ~7.1.330 7.2.182 ~7.2.264 7.2.303 ~7.2.359 {acl aqua bash-completion cscope debug gnome gpm gtk motif netbeans nextaw nls perl python ruby} Installed versions: 7.2.303([2010-02-15 16:38:53])(gpm gtk motif perl python -acl -aqua -bash-completion -cscope -debug -gnome -netbeans -nextaw -nls -ruby) OO was compiled with : root:503 ~> eix openoffice [I] app-office/openoffice Installed versions: 3.1.1([2010-02-15 15:12:54])(cups dbus gstreamer gtk java kde nsplugin opengl -aqua -bash-completion -binfilter -debug -eds -elibc_FreeBSD -gnome -kdeenablefinal -ldap -linguas_af ... -linguas_zu -mono -odk -pam -templates) -- ========================,,============================================ SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] copy-paste no longer works with (g)vim + OpenOffice 2010-02-17 11:42 ` Philip Webb @ 2010-02-17 16:57 ` Willie Wong 2010-02-17 18:18 ` Philip Webb 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Willie Wong @ 2010-02-17 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:42:40AM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > > Which copy+paste? high-light with mouse and middle click to paste? > > Yes: are there other methods ? -- it also doesn't work > if I high-light with 'v' & the (left-)arrow key(s). In Gnome at least you can high-light with mouse, right click, hit copy, and go to another window, right click, and hit paste.... Is visual mode even suppose to work for this purpose? I don't think hitting v and moving left and right is suppose to dump the selected sections into the copy-paste buffer. > > > Can you copy and paste from (g)vim to another Konsole? > > Yes, no problem. > > > To any other application? > > Yes, to Leafpad, Kwrite, (Xfce) Terminal & Xterm. So basically the problem is OO then. Can you copy and paste from other applications to OO? Perhaps it is a problem with encodings? Years ago I had trouble occasionally when I try to copy and past stuff from Firefox to Vim in a rxvt terminal. Then I found out the hiccup is due to 'proper' apostrophes, commas, and en- and em-dashes. Unicode characters does not want to be pasted into a non-unicode terminal. try emerging (if you don't have it installed already) the little program 'xsel'. You can use it to manipulate the selection buffers. Try trouble shooting with it to see what the problem is. http://www.vergenet.net/~conrad/software/xsel/xsel.1x.html HTH, W -- Willie W. Wong wwong@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] copy-paste no longer works with (g)vim + OpenOffice 2010-02-17 16:57 ` Willie Wong @ 2010-02-17 18:18 ` Philip Webb 2010-02-17 22:57 ` Willie Wong 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Philip Webb @ 2010-02-17 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user 100217 Willie Wong wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:42:40AM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: >>> Which copy+paste? high-light with mouse and middle click to paste? >> Yes: are there other methods ? -- it also doesn't work >> if I high-light with 'v' & the (left-)arrow key(s). > In Gnome you can high-light with mouse, right click, hit copy > and go to another window, right click, and hit paste. I didn't know that one (smile), but only the 1st half works here; when I R-click in the OO file, there's no 'paste' option & using the 'paste' button on the toolbar gives "Requested clipboard format is not available". > Is visual mode even suppose to work for this purpose? > I don't think hitting 'v' and moving left and right > is supposed to dump the selected sections into the copy-paste buffer. I don't know what it's "supposed" to do, but till last Sunday it had been regularly doing a paste into OO after a copy w mouse or 'v'. I didn't update anything else at the same time which seems relevant: Gzip Java-config Pykde Hplip Gnuconfig Psmisc (that's why I mentioned Poppler, which I updated the previous week). >>> Can you copy and paste from (g)vim to another Konsole? >> Yes, no problem. >>> To any other application? >> Yes, to Leafpad, Kwrite, (Xfce) Terminal & Xterm. > So basically the problem is OO then. No ! -- there was no change to OO last weekend, only to (G)vim ! > Can you copy and paste from other applications to OO? Yes, at least from Konsole Terminal Leafpad: I mentioned the Most+Konsole workaround in my OP. > Perhaps it is a problem with encodings? I haven't changed those for a long time, certainly not last weekend. > HTH I'm certainly v grateful for your suggestions, but they don't get anywhere. I assume you don't use both Gvim & OO (7.2.303 & 3.1.1) or you could test it for yourself: can anyone else test this ? Does anyone else have useful thoughts ? If not, it looks like a bug to report. -- ========================,,============================================ SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] copy-paste no longer works with (g)vim + OpenOffice 2010-02-17 18:18 ` Philip Webb @ 2010-02-17 22:57 ` Willie Wong 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Willie Wong @ 2010-02-17 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 01:18:21PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > I didn't know that one (smile), but only the 1st half works here; > when I R-click in the OO file, there's no 'paste' option > & using the 'paste' button on the toolbar gives > "Requested clipboard format is not available". Okay, so OO does smart pasting where it also treats formatting I guess. So this is most likely a bug. > > So basically the problem is OO then. > > No ! -- there was no change to OO last weekend, only to (G)vim ! Yes, it is a problem with OO. It is trying to be too smart with the paste-buffer. Somehow it is not treating the selection as pure text as it ought to. Out of curiosity, does this happen for any text file in gvim or only those with certain file extensions? I assume it is also a problem when you just open up vim with an empty buffer and type some random junk and try to copy and paste that? No, I don't use OO at all, and much as I'd like to help, I'm not about to try to install *that* on my underpowered netbook. Actually, I don't even use gvim: vim in a terminal is good enough for me. Hum, just a thought! Do you have vim compiled with the vim-with-x USE flag? Try toggling it. Part of the flag is supposed to help behaviour with interaction against X clipboard. I am pretty out of ideas otherwise, good luck on your quest, and sorry for not being more helpful. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong wwong@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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