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From: Willie Wong <wwong@Math.Princeton.EDU>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar  performance so far
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:17:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100215011740.GA27687@math.princeton.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201002150148.05937.Warp_7@gmx.de>

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 01:48:01AM +0100, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Sorry if I reheat a topic that some already consider closed. I used the 
> weekend to experiment on that stuff and need to report my results. Because 
> they startle me a little.
> 
> I first tried different start sectors around sector 63: 63, 64, 66, 68 etc. 
> They showed nearly the same results in speed. So I almost thought that my 
> drive, albeit being new and of high capacity, is not affected by this yet.
> 
> But then I tested my main media partition, which starts in the middle of the 
> disk. I downloaded a portage snapshot and put it into a ramdisk, so reading 
> it would not manipulate measurements. I also copied a 1GB file into that 
> ramdisk to test consecutive writes.
> 
> As a start sector I chose 288816640, which is divisible by 64. The startling 
> result: this gave the lowest performance. If the partition starts in one of 
> the sectors behind it, performance was always better. I repeated the test 
> several times to confirm it. How do you explain this? :-?
> 
> The following table shows the ‘real’ value from the output of the time 
> command. SS means the aforementioned start sector with SS % 64 == 0.
> 
> action         SS (1st)   SS (2nd)   SS+2       SS+4       SS+6       SS+8
> -------------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------
> untar portage  3m12.517   2m55.916   1m46.663   1m35.341   1m47.829   1m43.677
> rm portage     4m11.109   3m54.950   3m18.820   3m11.378   3m21.804   3m12.433
> cp 1GB file    0m21.383   0m13.558   0m14.920   0m12.813   0m13.407   0m13.681

Instead of guessing using this rather imprecise metric, why not just
look up the serial number of your drive and see what the physical
sector size is? If you don't want to open your box, you can usually
get the information from dmesg. 

Only caveat: don't trust the harddrive to report accurate geometry.
This whole issue is due to the harddrives lying about their physical
geometry to be compatible with older versions of Windows. So the
physical sector size listed in dmesg may not be the real one. Which is
why you are advised to look up the model number on the vendor's
website yourself to determine the physical sector size. 

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong                                     wwong@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
         et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton



  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-15  1:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-07 16:27 [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far Mark Knecht
2010-02-07 17:30 ` Alexander
2010-02-07 18:19   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-07 19:26     ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-07 18:38   ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-07 19:16     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-07 19:39 ` Willie Wong
2010-02-07 20:31   ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-07 21:59     ` Kyle Bader
2010-02-07 21:42   ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-08  2:08     ` Willie Wong
2010-02-08 17:10       ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-08 18:52         ` Valmor de Almeida
2010-02-08 20:34           ` Paul Hartman
2010-02-09  0:27             ` Neil Bothwick
2010-02-09 12:46               ` Stroller
2010-02-09 13:34                 ` Neil Bothwick
2010-02-09 23:37                   ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  6:31                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-10  7:11                       ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  8:37                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-10  8:43                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-09 13:35                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-09 13:57                 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 15:11                   ` Stroller
2010-02-09 15:27                     ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 17:38                       ` Stroller
2010-02-09 18:25                         ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-09 19:29                           ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 15:43                     ` Neil Bothwick
2010-02-09 17:17                       ` Stroller
2010-02-09 20:30                         ` Neil Bothwick
2010-02-09 18:03                       ` Neil Walker
2010-02-09 19:37                         ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 23:52                           ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  1:16                             ` Stroller
2010-02-10  6:59                             ` Neil Walker
2010-02-10  7:31                               ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  1:28                           ` Stroller
2010-02-10 11:14                             ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 16:37                               ` Stroller
2010-02-10 17:26                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 20:48                                   ` Stroller
2010-02-10  0:11                         ` Peter Humphrey
2010-02-10  6:48                           ` Neil Walker
2010-02-09 17:33               ` Paul Hartman
2010-02-09  7:47             ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 23:22               ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  7:08                 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-02-10 10:56                   ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 10:53                 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 11:03                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-10 11:17                     ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 11:24                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-08  5:25     ` Valmor de Almeida
2010-02-08 19:57       ` Stroller
2010-02-09  0:05     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-09  0:37       ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-09  2:48         ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-09 17:09           ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-09 18:21             ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-09 21:13             ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-09 22:17               ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 22:54               ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-10  0:31                 ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  1:27                   ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-10  7:06                     ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-09 16:31         ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-12  9:06           ` Mick
2010-02-12 12:14             ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-09  0:47       ` Stroller
2010-02-09  2:20       ` Willie Wong
2010-02-15  0:48     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-15  1:17       ` Willie Wong [this message]
2010-02-15  3:17         ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-15 18:03         ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-15 23:53           ` Alex Schuster
2010-02-16 17:35             ` Frank Steinmetzger

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