From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NggDS-0000F3-RO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:16:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47950E0870; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED002E0870 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so4346447fxm.2 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 07:15:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=xbE1yCwIdSSSjCLWONM0KIHfgJUnoesrwAQlulWEQwo=; b=Nka4oLuXPhK6dj4jhHTlLSepXQ+o3OBd3HkcYTGIe16o591eLXYD2ECIVe9H62/Xdk SzzdQRTbAczK0TyytYyYtdnTr2g77WUx6sgFvMrqDMaFpDonxKHl7MA8TMkWTIgP+mXv EyQAOomrsTbZOduRSHaFFs0ZeJm8Lr5z735vk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=JIY9kM3g8sDMLmh0Kpf8fmi2vYN9jXbEq+Wv2nnfjiSH3eXZXeregCK2QvIGHKb6gK sxYBd+M6m1tHEC+yjf+Z+hzb6kA7nKZV4lLap0XjQOOLtWiltjuLAZrSJV9bjFfbMZ6p QFCn9lmYdgj4NkqU/FJlNhly9eElrAJwG4Y+k= Received: by 10.102.216.24 with SMTP id o24mr2955357mug.13.1266160553279; Sun, 14 Feb 2010 07:15:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from energy.localnet (ip-80-226-1-7.vodafone-net.de [80.226.1.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm28627868mum.3.2010.02.14.07.15.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 14 Feb 2010 07:15:52 -0800 (PST) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files? Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:15:49 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.0 (Linux/2.6.31.12r4; KDE/4.4.0; x86_64; ; ) References: <20100208222047.GA6553@muc.de> <201002131216.29951.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4B780FEF.2040704@metux.de> In-Reply-To: <4B780FEF.2040704@metux.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002141615.50218.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: d6c4cbff-9cfd-4bc9-a842-218062c54c9e X-Archives-Hash: 7b04a224e0c586f7dda7c886639e7342 On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > However. ELF is analogous (with the exception that you don't > > have one or two binary apps), and nothing is stopping you from > > building everything statically, or still using .a > > Actually, if libraries hadn't been grown that extremly fat, > but instead using small tailored ones and moving the redundant > complexity to their own services, we perhaps won't need it at > all, but would be fine with small static binaries (which can > startup much faster). > > > cu startup time is not dependet on the size, harddisks are way too fast - but symbol resolution. More libs, more work to resolve them, longer startup times.