From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-107382-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1NfjjD-0007gi-Gk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:49:53 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A965E118B for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786FDE0E9F for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10so1872019fxm.29 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:27:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=sbjS/EDUHYlvFEaiUcLQMTnoerd14ivNOviHmoQfJ/U=; b=f7iRPDi5n+ZJLys/sHgm8AWRPI4pr5/tCIqdSDr0PksGeja9qlRCADucCqDAPu8YtE DQZCcMTNcHbiMkyXQjS2hoUngbvICao6gmBOtOtS2XkOcEfk3WGq6KTvdWPpgufgDzNf 2w5chtg/lz4TAn0fbO+A692m4K9pQa+AvuE04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=DX9wiIhnJf4qBDfJvglOjbNE62XlDrj9mz82KvNXsoWQ7edMYw54KtyIT83Uf3IPpi l6xCwEslvEI7qw23Q3nmDxdAIpMmVmKl3Ap4BaKtQ+YDArzHSCjWoiFVJ17EXzxrKz2T 6NtJ1vb9es6k70SsTNM+NorjIH7jFxgszT1pQ= Received: by 10.223.94.204 with SMTP id a12mr661564fan.75.1265934469848; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:27:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from energy.localnet (ip-80-226-1-7.vodafone-net.de [80.226.1.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm1453037fxm.4.2010.02.11.16.27.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:27:49 -0800 (PST) From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Has semantic-desktop really become compulsatory for kmail? Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:27:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.0 (Linux/2.6.31.12r4; KDE/4.4.0; x86_64; ; ) References: <201002101253.19758.christian.apeltauer@online.de> <201002111605.33295.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <4B749BD7.1040002@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B749BD7.1040002@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002120127.16984.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 3ff9e81f-110c-45f6-9eed-0a8ef7eea217 X-Archives-Hash: a30776c7cb4023f9717c6405a6a0e0ac On Freitag 12 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: > chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > > On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Dale wrote: > >> chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: > >>> On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>>> On Thursday 11 February 2010 13:50:54 Walter Dnes wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 01:31:26AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010, Roy Wright wrote: > >>>>>>> IMO, mandatory semantic-desktop is a very good reason to find > >>>>>>> another desktop manager (even after being my primary desktop for 7 > >>>>>>> years). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> yeah good luck with that. Because gnome is moving in that direction > >>>>>> too. > >>>>>> > >>>>> There are other desktops besides GNOME and KDE. Actually I > >>>>> prefer the > >>>>> > >>>>> ICEWM window manager. I was running a 1999 Dell 450mhz PIII with 128 > >>>>> megs of *SYSTEM* ram until the summer of 2007. Let's just say that > >>>>> GNOME and KDE were out of the question for me. On my current > >>>>> desktop, ICEWM flies. But I also have a netbook, and again GNOME > >>>>> and KDE are not usable. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Seriously guys, you start sounding like luddites. Is new, must be > >>>>>> bad. > >>>>>> > >>>>> Correction, is fat, bloated, and slow, must be bad. I wonder if > >>>>> > >>>>> Microsoft's anti-linux strategy is to have its agents infiltrate the > >>>>> linux developer community, and turn linux into bloatware. > >>>> > >>>> You have been corrected on this point so many times I now think you > >>>> are just a stupid ass. > >>>> > >>>> It is not slow. > >>>> > >>>> You are the only one saying that. People who do use Nepomuk say that > >>>> it is not slow and does not hog resources (initial scan excepted). > >>> > >>> you can even tell nepomuk how much memory it is allowed to use ... > >> > >> Can you nice the thing too? That would work. I set emerge to 5 and I > >> can't even tell that emerge is running most of the time. There may be > >> times when I can but it is rare. > >> > >> I just don't get this thing that indexing is a resource hog. I notice > >> updatedb running at night. I have 329Gbs of "data" and updatedb only > >> takes a few minutes. How is that a resource "hog"? My machine is not > >> as old as some but it is slow going by the new machines that are out > >> now. It's a AMD 2500+ with 2Gbs of ram. I have had Linux on machines > >> as slow as 133MHz but never felt the need to disable indexing. > > > > when updatedb runs your cache is shot afterwards. That is a known > > problems. > > > > Nepomuk is only noticable once: the first indexing run. After that it > > creates zero load. > > So cache is bad? Heck, my cache is almost always full anyway. Nothing > new there. If it is not updatedb then it will be something else. no, cahce is great. That is the problem. Updatedb replaces the cached files with stuff you probably don't care about. Which is bad.