[gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,

has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
version?
This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
go to different slots.
Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.

Thanks for a hint,
Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
> version?
> This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
> go to different slots.
> Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
> 
> Thanks for a hint,
> Helmut.

I had no problems going form 4.4rc2 to 4.4. Besides removing soprano.

And slots don't mean anything since everything ends straight in /usr. If there 
are blocks, unmerge them.

emerge -C ...

or even faster

pmerge --unmerge ...

pretty easy. You can even unmerge whole sets. Superfast.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 10 Feb, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
>> version?
>> This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
>> go to different slots.
>> Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
>> 
>> Thanks for a hint,
>> Helmut.
> 
> I had no problems going form 4.4rc2 to 4.4. Besides removing soprano.
> 
> And slots don't mean anything since everything ends straight in /usr. If there 
> are blocks, unmerge them.
> 
> emerge -C ...
> 
> or even faster
> 
> pmerge --unmerge ...
> 
> pretty easy. You can even unmerge whole sets. Superfast.

Thanks, but what's 'pmerge' ?
Is it in any overlay?

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Dale]

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:
> Hi,
>
> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
> version?
> This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
> go to different slots.
> Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
>
> Thanks for a hint,
> Helmut.
>
>    

Well, I'm not really sure.  I synced a bit ago, ran autounmask and it is 
just starting to download and emerge.  So far, it shows the blocks but 
portage didn't stop the process.  It has started at least.

I'm using the same version of portage you are using.  You sure it is not 
something that is not unmasked or something of that nature?  I'd be glad 
to share my unmask and keyword files if you need them.  Off list of 
course, unless the list wouldn't mind me putting them on here to share.  ^-^

Dale

:-)  :-)

P. S.  Total: 275 packages (14 upgrades, 27 new, 234 in new slots, 245 
uninstalls), Size of downloads: 726,272 kB
Conflict: 499 blocks

Sure am glad I got DSL now.  lol  That would take me a week on dial-up.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 10 Feb, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
> >> version?
> >> This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
> >> go to different slots.
> >> Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for a hint,
> >> Helmut.
> > 
> > I had no problems going form 4.4rc2 to 4.4. Besides removing soprano.
> > 
> > And slots don't mean anything since everything ends straight in /usr. If
> > there are blocks, unmerge them.
> > 
> > emerge -C ...
> > 
> > or even faster
> > 
> > pmerge --unmerge ...
> > 
> > pretty easy. You can even unmerge whole sets. Superfast.
> 
> Thanks, but what's 'pmerge' ?
> Is it in any overlay?
> 
> Helmut.

pkgcore - in a lot of cases a lot faster than portage. Especially unmerging 
stuff.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 10 Feb, Dale wrote:
> chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:
>> Hi,
>>
>> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
>> version?
>> This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
>> go to different slots.
>> Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
>>
>> Thanks for a hint,
>> Helmut.
>>
>>    
> 
> Well, I'm not really sure.  I synced a bit ago, ran autounmask and it is 
> just starting to download and emerge.  So far, it shows the blocks but 
> portage didn't stop the process.  It has started at least.
> 
> I'm using the same version of portage you are using.  You sure it is not 
> something that is not unmasked or something of that nature?  I'd be glad 
> to share my unmask and keyword files if you need them.  Off list of 
> course, unless the list wouldn't mind me putting them on here to share.  ^-^
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 
> P. S.  Total: 275 packages (14 upgrades, 27 new, 234 in new slots, 245 
> uninstalls), Size of downloads: 726,272 kB
> Conflict: 499 blocks
> 
> Sure am glad I got DSL now.  lol  That would take me a week on dial-up.

Thanks Dale,
but what should I use autounmask for? 
No version of kde is masked here.

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Dale]

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:
> On 10 Feb, Dale wrote:
>    
>> chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:
>>      
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
>>> version?
>>> This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
>>> go to different slots.
>>> Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
>>>
>>> Thanks for a hint,
>>> Helmut.
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Well, I'm not really sure.  I synced a bit ago, ran autounmask and it is
>> just starting to download and emerge.  So far, it shows the blocks but
>> portage didn't stop the process.  It has started at least.
>>
>> I'm using the same version of portage you are using.  You sure it is not
>> something that is not unmasked or something of that nature?  I'd be glad
>> to share my unmask and keyword files if you need them.  Off list of
>> course, unless the list wouldn't mind me putting them on here to share.  ^-^
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>> P. S.  Total: 275 packages (14 upgrades, 27 new, 234 in new slots, 245
>> uninstalls), Size of downloads: 726,272 kB
>> Conflict: 499 blocks
>>
>> Sure am glad I got DSL now.  lol  That would take me a week on dial-up.
>>      
> Thanks Dale,
> but what should I use autounmask for?
> No version of kde is masked here.
>
> Helmut.
>
>    

At first portage gave me errors about things being masked/keyworded.  
So, I figured out it was trying to upgrade the kde-meta and used 
autounmask to make sure they were all available.  After that, it just 
started updating.  So far, no problems.

Autounmask did add a lot of packages to package.keywords.  I guess it 
did it for a reason since portage was complaining before I ran 
autounmask but isn't complaining now.  I'm on package 6 at the moment.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 10 February 2010 10:36:35 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
> version?
> This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
> go to different slots.
> Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.


Remove ALL version-specific information for kde entries from world.
Don't mix and match -meta packages and sets.
Beware of kde-misc entries - often times they have depends on the old SLOT and 
pull in conflicts. These ebuilds are not as maintained as the kdebase ones, 
same with the apps themselves.

I've just upgraded to 4.4 here and fixing the above issues put portage in a 
position where it could automagically do everything correctly and deal with 
all blockers


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 10 Feb, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 February 2010 10:36:35 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
>> version?
>> This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
>> go to different slots.
>> Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
> 
> 
> Remove ALL version-specific information for kde entries from world.

There are no specific version of kde in world

> Don't mix and match -meta packages and sets.

What do you mean by that? I don't think I have any kde-sets here

# emerge --list-sets
downgrade
installed
live-rebuild
module-rebuild
preserved-rebuild
security
selected
system
unavailable
world

> Beware of kde-misc entries - often times they have depends on the old SLOT and 
> pull in conflicts. These ebuilds are not as maintained as the kdebase ones, 
> same with the apps themselves.
> 

Thanks,
Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 10 February 2010 12:32:11 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 10 Feb, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Wednesday 10 February 2010 10:36:35 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
> >> version?
> >> This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
> >> go to different slots.
> >> Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
> > 
> > Remove ALL version-specific information for kde entries from world.
> 
> There are no specific version of kde in world
> 
> > Don't mix and match -meta packages and sets.
> 
> What do you mean by that? I don't think I have any kde-sets here
> 
> # emerge --list-sets
> downgrade
> installed
> live-rebuild
> module-rebuild
> preserved-rebuild
> security
> selected
> system
> unavailable
> world
> 
> > Beware of kde-misc entries - often times they have depends on the old
> > SLOT and pull in conflicts. These ebuilds are not as maintained as the
> > kdebase ones, same with the apps themselves.

In general terms, portage knows you have package A that must stay at v4.3.5 
and you want to upgrade it (or more likely something that depends on it) to 
v4.4. It's telling you "I can't/won't do that".

Please post the portage output for the blockers that portage won't resolve 
(not everything, that will be about 5000 lines) plus the command you are 
running if it's not "emerge -avuND world".

Also, are you aware that as of yesterday, KDE-4.4 was still hard masked in 
$PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask? It may have been removed meanwhile since my 
last sync. And what do you have related to kde in your own 
/etc/portage/package* ?


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Dale]

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:
> Also, are you aware that as of yesterday, KDE-4.4 was still hard masked in
> $PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask? It may have been removed meanwhile since my
> last sync.
>
>    

Maybe some of us synced in the middle of a update then?  I get this:

root@smoker / # equery list -p kde-meta
[ Searching for package 'kde-meta' in all categories among: ]
  * installed packages
[I--] [  ] kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.10 (3.5)
[I--] [ ~] kde-base/kde-meta-4.3.5 (4.3)
  * Portage tree (/usr/portage)
[-P-] [  ] kde-base/kde-meta-4.3.3 (4.3)
[-P-] [ ~] kde-base/kde-meta-4.3.4 (4.3)
[-P-] [ ~] kde-base/kde-meta-4.4.0 (4.4)
root@smoker / #

That explains why autounmask added things to package.keyword but not 
unmask here.  They are still keyworded but not masked.  This makes since 
on my rig at least.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Paul Hartman]

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Helmut Jarausch
<jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
> version?
> This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
> go to different slots.
> Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.

I use the kde overlay and the unmask/keywords files it contains. The
only thing I had to do manually was unmask newest version of libmsn.
After that it all emerged in one try.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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Am Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
> Hi,
>
> has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
> version?
> This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
> go to different slots.
> Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
>
> Thanks for a hint,
> Helmut.

Well I only had some issues with packages that didn't have a 4.4 version, like 
soliduiserver. So I guessed they don't need that anymore and a removed it. 
Turned out it was a hard block because I had it in world.
-- 
Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
Why did the tachyon cross the road?
Because it was on the other side.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > has anybody a recipe on this upgrade hell each time KDE release a new
> > version?
> > This time existing KDE-4.3.5 packages block KDE-4.4 packages though they
> > go to different slots.
> > Even portage-2.2_rc62 is unable to cope with that.
> > 
> > Thanks for a hint,
> > Helmut.
> 
> Well I only had some issues with packages that didn't have a 4.4 version,
> like soliduiserver. So I guessed they don't need that anymore and a
> removed it. Turned out it was a hard block because I had it in world.

so? set -virtuoso in make.conf.

neither soprano nor kdelibs hard-depend on it.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.4 strikes again

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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Am Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2010 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:

> > Well I only had some issues with packages that didn't have a 4.4 version,
> > like soliduiserver. So I guessed they don't need that anymore and a
> > removed it. Turned out it was a hard block because I had it in world.
>
> so? set -virtuoso in make.conf.
>
> neither soprano nor kdelibs hard-depend on it.

That was the first I tried, but then portage told me that something, it must 
have been kdelibs, depended on soprano[dbus,raptor,redland,virtuoso]. So next 
I tried with -semantic-desktop, but that, too, Hm... now it doesn’t anymore. 
I don’t know what changed it, perhaps the cleanup of old 4.3 packages. :-/

Well, whatever. I let it download over night and install during the afternoon 
while I was out. Now it’s too late to ponder about it any further. Who knows, 
perhaps I can even befriend with all that stuff.
-- 
Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
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