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From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@antarean.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:56:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201002101156.28209.joost@antarean.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201002100908.44786.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>

On Wednesday 10 February 2010 08:08:44 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 February 2010 01:22:31 Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 08:47 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > I now only need to figure out the best way to configure LVM over this
> > > to get the best performance from it. Does anyone know of a decent way
> > > of figuring this out?
> > > I got 6 disks in Raid-5.
> >
> > why LVM?  Planning on changing partition size later?  LVM is good for
> > (but not limited to) non-raid setups where you want one partition over a
> > number of disks.
> >
> > If you have RAID 5 however, don't you just get one large disk out of it?
> > In which case you could just create x partitions.  You can always use
> > parted to resize / move them later.
> >
> > IMHO recovery from tiny boot disks is easier without LVM too.
> 
> General observation (not saying that Iain is wrong):
> 
> You use RAID to get redundancy, data integrity and performance.
> 
> You use lvm to get flexibility, ease of maintenance and the ability to
>  create volumes larger than any single disk or array. And do it at a
>  reasonable price.
> 
> These two things have nothing to do with each other and must be viewed as
> such. There are places where RAID and lvm seem to overlap, where one might
> think that a feature of one can be used to replace the other. But both
>  really suck in these overlaps and are not very good at them.
> 
> Bottom line: don't try and use RAID or LVM to do $STUFF outside their core
> functions. They each do one thing and do it well.
> 

I completely agree with this.
RAID is for redundancy (Loose a disk, and the system will keep running)
LVM is for flexibility (Resizing/moving partitions using parted or similar 
takes time during which the whole system is unusable)

With LVM, I can resize a partition while it is actually in use (eg. write-
activities)




  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-10 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-07 16:27 [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far Mark Knecht
2010-02-07 17:30 ` Alexander
2010-02-07 18:19   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-07 19:26     ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-07 18:38   ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-07 19:16     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-07 19:39 ` Willie Wong
2010-02-07 20:31   ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-07 21:59     ` Kyle Bader
2010-02-07 21:42   ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-08  2:08     ` Willie Wong
2010-02-08 17:10       ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-08 18:52         ` Valmor de Almeida
2010-02-08 20:34           ` Paul Hartman
2010-02-09  0:27             ` Neil Bothwick
2010-02-09 12:46               ` Stroller
2010-02-09 13:34                 ` Neil Bothwick
2010-02-09 23:37                   ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  6:31                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-10  7:11                       ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  8:37                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-10  8:43                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-09 13:35                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-09 13:57                 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 15:11                   ` Stroller
2010-02-09 15:27                     ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 17:38                       ` Stroller
2010-02-09 18:25                         ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-09 19:29                           ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 15:43                     ` Neil Bothwick
2010-02-09 17:17                       ` Stroller
2010-02-09 20:30                         ` Neil Bothwick
2010-02-09 18:03                       ` Neil Walker
2010-02-09 19:37                         ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 23:52                           ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  1:16                             ` Stroller
2010-02-10  6:59                             ` Neil Walker
2010-02-10  7:31                               ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  1:28                           ` Stroller
2010-02-10 11:14                             ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 16:37                               ` Stroller
2010-02-10 17:26                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 20:48                                   ` Stroller
2010-02-10  0:11                         ` Peter Humphrey
2010-02-10  6:48                           ` Neil Walker
2010-02-09 17:33               ` Paul Hartman
2010-02-09  7:47             ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 23:22               ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  7:08                 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-02-10 10:56                   ` J. Roeleveld [this message]
2010-02-10 10:53                 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 11:03                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-10 11:17                     ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 11:24                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-08  5:25     ` Valmor de Almeida
2010-02-08 19:57       ` Stroller
2010-02-09  0:05     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-09  0:37       ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-09  2:48         ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-09 17:09           ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-09 18:21             ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-09 21:13             ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-09 22:17               ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 22:54               ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-10  0:31                 ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  1:27                   ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-10  7:06                     ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-09 16:31         ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-12  9:06           ` Mick
2010-02-12 12:14             ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-09  0:47       ` Stroller
2010-02-09  2:20       ` Willie Wong
2010-02-15  0:48     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-15  1:17       ` Willie Wong
2010-02-15  3:17         ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-15 18:03         ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-15 23:53           ` Alex Schuster
2010-02-16 17:35             ` Frank Steinmetzger

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