From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nf8Al-0005ZD-Er for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:43:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78D54E0933; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f216.google.com (mail-fx0-f216.google.com [209.85.220.216]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEB3E0933 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so7838911fxm.26 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:43:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=S/T4NsSOBYtjYcs89vVs643/ja1yROlU77872P6TNEY=; b=nPfPseGo74+h1g/yfu3edkmHw2lFcuYTDEh2qM36OCpzPRPKnGqj1pF4CJPKvlzwIg iIiQIXFx6C49V8SBEjulv605Z2z/2oG8IZsDj9UPVXJAqI1EkZfonJ2hCqn577mMcsom ERj2ZLhyQtnt9ZnMjRtXpCNEA9CQKhy8pVUJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=qQBlo3fKIpIewmuSzOIhNf+KBR2IKeSIuJzj+dapfbj1EHOsTGis/QfwrT39F1hqv5 u/aA8ZKOQUiKthTbBgLDJI8LG7epfHJYYEVkO5bTnrdzx2XhPFTvTxP9tFInJokv3Oju 6R/sQgC0wOl9nWJQbez55/BGTwsI3Hs1gHJeg= Received: by 10.102.222.7 with SMTP id u7mr2553296mug.1.1265791401183; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:43:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from energy.localnet (ip-80-226-1-7.vodafone-net.de [80.226.1.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm5424067mum.3.2010.02.10.00.43.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:43:20 -0800 (PST) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:43:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.0 (Linux/2.6.31.12r4; KDE/4.3.95; x86_64; ; ) References: <5bdc1c8b1002070827i14f59047k39a695900ebe9889@mail.gmail.com> <201002100731.44737.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <1265785907.3225.10.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1265785907.3225.10.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002100943.04711.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: f01a58f2-34a5-4df0-a406-01947d89c359 X-Archives-Hash: 60bcfbd45270e0151e071b1e8418e9df On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 07:31 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > so long as you didn't have any non-detectable disk errors before > > > removing the disk, or any drive failure while one of the drives were > > > removed. And the deterioration in performance while each disk was > > > removed in turn might take more time than its worth. Of course RAID 1 > > > wouldn't suffer from this (with >2 disks)... > > > > Raid 6. Two disks can go down. > > not that I know enough about RAID to comment on this page, but you might > find it interesting: > http://www.baarf.com/ > specifically: > http://www.miracleas.com/BAARF/RAID5_versus_RAID10.txt to give you an example, why raid 1 is not a good choice (and raid 10 too). You have two disks configured as mirror. They report different blocks. Which one is the correct one? And suddenly your system has to guess and you are very out of luck. Another reason, the author of that text stresses that you have to do more writes. Newsflash: with Raid1 every single block has to be written twice. So if you use additional writes against Raid5, Raid1 is instantly disqualified. You shouldn't listen to people with an agenda. This is almost as bad as the site that claimed that SATA is much worse than PATA in every single aspect ...