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From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@antarean.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar   performance so far
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:27:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201002091627.32157.joost@antarean.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <702F5366-D38F-4B0C-BD52-1250CBFAC6CB@stellar.eclipse.co.uk>

On Tuesday 09 February 2010 16:11:14 Stroller wrote:
> On 9 Feb 2010, at 13:57, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > ...
> > With Raid (NOT striping) you can remove one disk, leaving the Raid-
> > array in a
> > reduced state. Then repartition the disk you removed, repartition
> > and then re-
> > add the disk to the array.
> 
> Exactly. Except the partitions extend, in the same positions, across
> all the disks.
> 
> You cannot remove one disk from the array and repartition it, because
> the partition is across the array, not the disk. The single disk,
> removed from a RAID 5 (specified by Paul Hartman) array does not
> contain any partitions, just one stripe of them.
> 
> I apologise if I'm misunderstanding something here, or if your RAID
> works differently to mine.
> 
> Stroller.
> 

Stroller, it is my understanding that you use hardware raid adapters?
If that is the case, then the mentioned method won't work for you and if your 
raid-adapters already align everything properly, then you shouldn't notice any 
problems with these drives.
It would, however, be interesting to know how hardware raid adapters handle 
these 4KB sector-sizes.

I believe Paul Hartman is, like me, using Linux Sofware raid (mdadm+kernel 
drivers).

In that case, you can do either of the following:
Put the whole disk into the RAID, eg:
mdadm --create --level=5 --devices=6 /dev/sd[abcdef]
Or, you create 1 or more partitions on the disk and use these, eg:
mdadm --create --level=5 --devices=6 /dev/sd[abcdef]1

To have linux auto-detect for raid devices work, as far as I know, the 
partitioning method is required.
For that, I created a single full-disk partition on my drives:
--
# fdisk -l -u /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 182401 cylinders, total 2930277168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xda7d8d6d

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1              64  2930277167  1465138552   fd  Linux raid autodetect
--

I, after reading this, redid the array with the partition starting at sector 
64. Paul was unfortunate to have already filled his disks before this thread 
appeared.

The downside is: you loose one sector, but the advantage is a much improved 
performance (Or more precisely, not incur the performance penalty from having 
misaligned partitions)

--
Joost Roeleveld



  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-09 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-07 16:27 [gentoo-user] 1-Terabyte drives - 4K sector sizes? -> bar performance so far Mark Knecht
2010-02-07 17:30 ` Alexander
2010-02-07 18:19   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-07 19:26     ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-07 18:38   ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-07 19:16     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-07 19:39 ` Willie Wong
2010-02-07 20:31   ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-07 21:59     ` Kyle Bader
2010-02-07 21:42   ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-08  2:08     ` Willie Wong
2010-02-08 17:10       ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-08 18:52         ` Valmor de Almeida
2010-02-08 20:34           ` Paul Hartman
2010-02-09  0:27             ` Neil Bothwick
2010-02-09 12:46               ` Stroller
2010-02-09 13:34                 ` Neil Bothwick
2010-02-09 23:37                   ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  6:31                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-10  7:11                       ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  8:37                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-10  8:43                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-09 13:35                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-09 13:57                 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 15:11                   ` Stroller
2010-02-09 15:27                     ` J. Roeleveld [this message]
2010-02-09 17:38                       ` Stroller
2010-02-09 18:25                         ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-09 19:29                           ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 15:43                     ` Neil Bothwick
2010-02-09 17:17                       ` Stroller
2010-02-09 20:30                         ` Neil Bothwick
2010-02-09 18:03                       ` Neil Walker
2010-02-09 19:37                         ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 23:52                           ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  1:16                             ` Stroller
2010-02-10  6:59                             ` Neil Walker
2010-02-10  7:31                               ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  1:28                           ` Stroller
2010-02-10 11:14                             ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 16:37                               ` Stroller
2010-02-10 17:26                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 20:48                                   ` Stroller
2010-02-10  0:11                         ` Peter Humphrey
2010-02-10  6:48                           ` Neil Walker
2010-02-09 17:33               ` Paul Hartman
2010-02-09  7:47             ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 23:22               ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  7:08                 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-02-10 10:56                   ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 10:53                 ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 11:03                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-10 11:17                     ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-10 11:24                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-08  5:25     ` Valmor de Almeida
2010-02-08 19:57       ` Stroller
2010-02-09  0:05     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-09  0:37       ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-09  2:48         ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-09 17:09           ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-09 18:21             ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-09 21:13             ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-09 22:17               ` J. Roeleveld
2010-02-09 22:54               ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-10  0:31                 ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-10  1:27                   ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-10  7:06                     ` Iain Buchanan
2010-02-09 16:31         ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-12  9:06           ` Mick
2010-02-12 12:14             ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-09  0:47       ` Stroller
2010-02-09  2:20       ` Willie Wong
2010-02-15  0:48     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-15  1:17       ` Willie Wong
2010-02-15  3:17         ` Mark Knecht
2010-02-15 18:03         ` Frank Steinmetzger
2010-02-15 23:53           ` Alex Schuster
2010-02-16 17:35             ` Frank Steinmetzger

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